Wow, Joe Biden supports the Hyde Amendment & hates birth control too

2020 US Presidential Candidate Joe Biden addresses the audience at his Kickoff Campaign Rally held at Eakins Oval in Philadelphia

In April, Joe “Hamlet” Biden announced his latest presidential run, shocking no one. He had been “teasing” his run for months and months. What was weird is that his announcement came after several women came forward to speak about how Biden had touched them inappropriately, or smelled their hair, or hugged them too long, or everything else we’ve always known about Biden. Biden had to “reset” his campaign before he even announced. And since then… I mean, he’s getting good polling numbers, but it’s June 2019, not June 2020. I tend to believe his numbers are mostly a reflection of name-recognition. Because once people (women) really learn what Biden is saying about their issues, his numbers will plummet.

So what has Biden been saying about the issues? Well, he apparently still supports the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment is a particularly nasty piece of Republican bulls–t from decades ago, which ensures that no federal money goes towards abortion services in the name of, you know, women’s health care or reproductive services. Anti-choice politicians have wielded the Hyde Amendment to deny access to reproductive care to women in America and abroad, since “federal money” also goes to international aid too. Biden’s campaign confirmed this week that he supports the Hyde Amendment. Not only that, but Biden was in the room for all of the Affordable Care Act negotiations and he argued that Catholic men have more of a right to their beliefs than women have a right to birth control.

As Vice President, Joe Biden repeatedly sought to undermine the Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate, working in alliance with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops to push for a broad exemption that would have left millions of women without coverage. Biden’s battle over contraception is a window into his approach to the politics of reproductive freedom, a function of an electoral worldview that centers working-class Catholic men over the interests of women. The issue has been causing his presidential campaign some discomfort — on Wednesday, Biden’s campaign clarified that he remains a supporter of the so-called Hyde Amendment, a provision that bars federal money from being used to fund reproductive health services. Biden had recently told an activist with the ACLU that he opposed the amendment, and wanted to see it repealed.

On contraception, according to contemporaneous reporting and to sources involved with the internal debate, Biden had argued that if the regulations implementing the Affordable Care Act were going to mandate coverage, it would anger white, male Catholic voters, and threaten President Obama’s reelection in 2012. Biden’s main ally in the internal fight over contraception was Chief of Staff William Daly; both men are Catholic. Opposing Biden was a faction of mostly women advisers, joined by some men, who argued that Biden had both the policy and the politics wrong. On policy, they noted that if his broad exemption went into effect, upwards of six million women who happened to be employed by religious-affiliated organizations would lose contraception coverage. The politics were just as bad, they argued, given that women were increasingly becoming central to the party’s success. To turn on them on the issue of access to birth control — embracing a fringe position not even adopted by most Catholics who aren’t bishops — would put that support at risk.

[From The Intercept]

In many ways, the issue of abortion was always the Trojan horse for a larger campaign to deny women basic reproductive care and to limit (if not curtail) their autonomy over their bodies. Being anti-choice is the gateway drug to hating women, basically, and wanting them to be punished and/or die because they were born women. What I’m saying is that Joe Biden and men like Joe Biden should no longer have a seat at the f–king table. It’s 2019, if you don’t understand by now that birth control, access to affordable reproductive care and yes, abortion are all fundamental HUMAN RIGHTS, then I’m sorry, I don’t give a f–k about what you have to say about anything else.

Presidential Candidate Joe Bidedn Rally in Philadelphia at Eakins Oval

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  1. Ali says:

    100%. No human rights support, no vote from me.

    • Becks1 says:

      Co-signed.

      • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

        I’m wondering if this is more about trying to find a “place” for the “on the fence” Dump voters to feel they can “morally” vote Dem. (as repugnant as this term makes me feel!). I don’t recall Biden being anti-choice, has he? (Sorry, my coffee hasn’t kicked in and I am just not up to Googling his record right now). As we know, things can/do change once someone is IN office.

        I did see Biden on the news yesterday, being asked by a woman if he did stand against the Hyde act, and he did say he did. On camera.

        Regardless, my view is #VoteBlueNoMatterWho. And even if it’s Biden or Bernie (whom I despise) I will do so. My hope is that if Biden DOES get the nod, that Kamala or Pete is his VP. While I really like Warren, I just don’t see her as getting the nod.

      • velourazure says:

        I’m so tired of the American Patriarchal Theocracy.

      • Otaku fairy... says:

        Same here. The only way he’d get my vote at this point is as a last resort to stop Trump.
        @Velourazure: I’m tired of it too.

    • astrid says:

      +1

      • AB says:

        So you won’t vote for him even if he becomes the dem candidate? Are you all in swing states? This is how we got Trump…

      • liz says:

        I’ll hold my nose and vote for him, if he becomes the Democratic nominee (but I’m in New York, so it really doesn’t matter much).

        That said, Bernie and Biden need to drop out. They are dinosaurs who do not reflect the current needs of the US. They are both blatantly sexist, with a disturbing history of bigotry. It’s time for them to retire to write their memoirs.

      • North of Boston says:

        I’m with you liz.

        Bernie and Biden should drop out. I’ll vote for either one if they are the “Democratic” nominee (with that word in quotes because Bernie isn’t actually a Democrat. ) because Trump and the Republican party that is enabling him and taking advantage of the chaos/void he has created are an absolute abomination and will end the nation if they are not checked.

        But I am just so tired of both of them – their moment has passed and this run, for both of them, seems like much more about their egos than their desire to serve the country and make a difference. I’ve heard people make the argument that Biden is a good choice because he’s ‘electable’… which I think is code for “palatable to whatever idiots voted for Trump” But if he’s dead set on undermining the basic human rights of the majority of American voters, that doesn’t sound like an electable candidate to me.

        Oh, and BTW, the Catholic Church, whatever remains of it, has pretty much ceded ANY moral high ground it could ever have laid claim to in the last century, due to the absolutely horrific way it has handled rampant sexual abuse of children by priests. It’s time for the Church to get its slimy money grubbing patriarchal hands off of the bodies of children AND women.

        (I say that last paragraph as someone who was raised as a Catholic and believed a lot of what priests and others in the church hierarchy preached…I feel like I didn’t leave the Church, the Church, including all those predatory abusive priests and every single last person who enabled them, covered for them, and allowed child after child to be victimized by them, left me. There is no there there because what all those people were trying to protect was rotten to the core and that STILL hasn’t been reckoned with. The anti-choice, anti-women blather from Biden and others is just another rotten anti-humanity, anti-Christian branch on the same rotten tree.)

    • AnnaKist says:

      Mr Biden, two words for you: Boo! Hiss!

    • Angry Bird says:

      100%

    • RottenFlower says:

      in the infamous words of Jeopardy James, “I’m all-in” with this.

  2. Lala11_7 says:

    I’ve been knowing about Joe since the early 80s…his bigotry…his sexism…

    Glad everyone else it getting a chance to see how he was NEVA the answer to ANY of our problems

    • BayTampaBay says:

      It’s over Joe……………With regards to your nomination by the Democrats for POTUS put your heads between your legs and…………….well you know what to do.

    • Megan says:

      So have I and when people try to convince me Joe is electable I ask why someone who has been in public office since the Vietnam Nam war hasn’t already been president. It’s because his record sucks.

  3. StellainNH says:

    Nope. Nope. Nope. Women’s healthcare is a very important issue for me.

    • Megan says:

      Since when do white Catholic men who oppose reproductive rights vote for Democrats?

      • Some chick says:

        This is an excellent question. What a load of handwaving and justification!

        Women have died because of Hyde.

        Military women with nonviable pregnancies have been forced to carry the dead or dying fetus to term because of Hyde. Talk about PTSD.

  4. Veronica S. says:

    That may be his campaign’s downfall, honestly. I get the feeling what’s going on in some of the Southern and Midwest states right now with abortion rights may be serving as a wake up call for some women as to how precarious their rights really are. (Well, it should, anyway. I’m sure plenty will remain placidly obtuse on the issue until it’s too late.)

    • summertime says:

      I’m a democrat down here in a very red county in Alabama. Born and raised, currently expecting my first child. Every time I go in to vote (at the local church by my house of course) the old ladies who volunteer look up at me in disgust. Here in the past few weeks since this dumb state passed the abortion bill, I’ve noticed less and less cheering for Trump and our Gubenor, Ms. Ivey. I think after realizing the white men here didn’t care if the child comes from incest or rape, they now see their own rights are being threatened. There’s a lot more whispers and a lot of looking at additional candidates now. I don’t think anything will change much in the next elections, but there’s a bunch of 15-17 year olds who can vote then and I’m hoping we might see some shakeup in the stupid state.

  5. Leah says:

    Done with both him and Bernie. Get a grip, white men, this time is no longer yours. The fact they continue to push for themselves as the next generation’s leader when the pool is already capable and diverse, as the fix after the horror show we are currently going through, reminds me these two are not doing this “for the people” but for their own egos.

    That said, funny you used the phase “gateway drug” when Biden is also known for referring to marijuana as a GD in conversations about legalization.

    Throw in his messy history with personal space and his shameful treatment of Anita Hill and I can’t believe we’re still talking about Biden as a viable option for the Presidency.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I wouldn’t quite lump Bernie and Joe together, since the former is ethnically Jewish and Western culture is notoriously Antisemitic – and we’re seeing a significant rise in neo-Nazism in Europe and America currently. Sanders is old enough that he was born in the middle of WWII and grew up seeing the fallout of it. He certainly benefits from a Caucasian appearance, no argument there, but it’s not quite as heavily mired in privilege the way Biden is. While I’m not a huge fan of Bernie, if I have to pick one, I’ll choose him over Joe.

      • Kylie says:

        Bernie has been very willing to throw issues that women and POC care about under the bus when it suits him.

      • Veronica S. says:

        I don’t disagree, but I now hail from a city where the worst terrorist attack on Jews occurred in American history, so we shouldn’t pretend Antisemitism isn’t on the rise. Erasing ethnic identity, especially one that has withstood such historical abuses, isn’t helping anyone’s cause. Bernie is privileged and should be criticized for what privileges he has, but we should be cautious not to pretend that his ethnic identity isn’t significant to who he is.

      • Kylie says:

        But we also shouldn’t pretend that being a minority, in Bernie’s case a religious minority, makes a person better on issues. I’m not cool with someone who is willing to dismiss my concerns and needs as a voter and a person.

      • North of Boston says:

        + 1 Kylie

        Bernie and Joe may be coming at it from different directions, but both of them have at the core of their campaign the primacy of their white, male egos, and whatever it is politically expedient for them to trample on, they seem OK with trampling on.

        No and No.

    • I’m kind of excited about Andrew Yang. Been watching his interviews online, and I really like how he thinks.

      • Betsy says:

        Once I found out that he was the Silicon Valley candidate? Next. That kind of Zuckerbergian “here’s how amazing the world will be” claptrap just screams trojan horse to me.

  6. Wow says:

    I swear to god why are we surprised? Biden isn’t our savior from Trump, he will secure 4 more damn years.

    “But he polls so well….” STOP SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO CAN’T BEAT TRUMP AND HAVE CRAP POLICIES. this is the primary, don’t vote for the elderly man who treats women like they aren’t sentient beings on several different fronts.

    I’m sick of the Biden Talk, positively disgusted and nauseated by it. I would find it extremely difficult to vote for him. I couldn’t understand why people would rather stay home that Vote for Hillary, but now I get it. I understand why it’s wrong and I wont, but being forced to vote for Biden just to avoid Trump would be a traumatic experience.

    • Darla says:

      ^^^^100% this

    • Scal says:

      @Wow my response to the ‘he polls so well…’ nonsense is to point out that Hilary also polled really well throughout the general. And look how that turned out.

      Polls (esp this early) mean nothing.

      • Wisca says:

        Any Dem–ANY Dem we nominate will be Savaged by Republicans. I love Warren because so far she is the most thoughtful & policy driven by a mile. Her personal story is compelling. She too, will be mercilessly attacked. Bute edge edge will bring out the homophobes–Bernie, the deep deep christian-based antisemitism (already awakened under trump)–Kamala, the women-black-asian haters. We have to out organize the hateful minority based on the electoral college system.

      • Some chick says:

        Let us not forget the cheating and the scamming. Hillary won the popular vote, by millions. It’s just that some pigs are more equal than others.

      • North of Boston says:

        The only downside to Warren at this point in my mind is that she has been on the Republican/Fox News target list for a while, so they already have a head-start trying to demonize her EXACTLY like they had done to Hillary Clinton for decades.

        But, you know what? The Republican/Fox News machinery is going to start churning out vilifying nonsense at WHOEVER is the Democratic presidential front-runner/candidate

        I’m tired of the entire country letting the whining, lying Republicans and their Fox News toadies drive the agenda, the conversation and the left’s idea of “who’s electable”

        I say let’s send the person into the general election who will be the best possible President – at this moment in time, not the 90′s (sorry Joe) …and work our darndest to get that person elected. Warren is one of the top candidates in my book. Biden is not.

        It’s not going to be easy, because the lying right plays dirty. But I am SO sick of Republicans/Fox News running the table and setting the agenda. Ignore them – they are, in fact, the minority. They are, in fact, a shrinking minority. At this point, all they have are lies, gerrymandering and a Rovian understanding of how to exploit fear. Oh, and Mitch McConnell and his Supreme Court hypocrisy. Which is not easy to knock down, but remember, we are the majority, and a growing majority at that.

    • Megan says:

      I am sick and tired of Democrats telling people who are not cis gendered, straight, white, Christian men, to take one for the team and get behind Biden. Like we should erase ourselves over the undefined and rarely predictable concept of “elect ability.”

  7. dogmom says:

    Wow, this is disappointing. I like Joe as a person and admire/respect his decades of public service, but I can’t support him with this. Although, don’t get me wrong, if it’s him vs. Trump on the ballot, I’m not going to be a fool and piss away my vote on the third party or abstain. This is just so disappointing.

    • LP says:

      @dogmom If anyone suggests not voting, I’ll be right there with you, but this is 100% not that. It’s the primary, and we need to pick the absolute best candidate with the best positions. Someone who can’t meet even a basic benchmark for women’s issues is a non starter when so many other better candidates are running. If you think Biden’s policies are somehow better than Elizabeth warren’s or Kamala Harris’ I just don’t know what to tell you!

      • dogmom says:

        Oh no, I’m not saying I think his policies are better at all! Like I said, if he’s the nominee, I’ll vote for him, but in the primary I’m voting for Warren. But apparently I’m ignorant so what do I know?

      • North of Boston says:

        Consider this, in 2016, Republican primary voters had a choice of who THEY would send on to the general election. WAY too many of them said “Screw everyone, I’m voting for Trump! Suck on that Jeb! Suck on that liberals! Suck on that educated elite!” And well, we all know what happened in 2016.

        When I look back at 2016, mostly I blame the other Republican candidates, none of whom had the guts to directly take on Trump, do serious opposition research on him and USE it (seriously…the BUSH political apparatus couldn’t have unearthed ALL the Trump craziness in like, Spring 2016? Really? … REALLY?) But no, EVERY.SINGLE.ONE of those small-handed, lily-livered candidates LIKED the base Trump riled up. All of them were waiting for the other guy, or Carly, to take him out, so they could collect the deplorables for THEIR candidacy and sweep to victory. And guess what? You snooze, you lose, and they all lost. And, yeah, I also blame the media, who were SO enamored of the ratings that a Trump candidacy brought them and SO thought he was ridiculous that they didn’t actually bother to VET him until after the general election.

        (Oh, and I do blame Jon Stewart, just a wee bit, because if he hadn’t retired from the Daily Show, there is NO WAY Trump makes it to the general election, IMO. )

        But mostly, mostly, I blame the Republican primary voters. Because if they had a lick of sense, and voted for the person who might possibly have been the best Republican president from that clown car of 2016 primary candidates, NONE of us would have ever had had to reckon with president idiot trump.

        So, fast forward to 2019-2020, now Democrats are the primary voters who really count (sorry Bill Weld…you were a lackluster Massachusetts governor and you’re never going to be President…but go you!) How about we NOT pick the old white guy who is more than a little bit handsy and has 1950′s ideas of women’s reproductive health issues? There ARE some better choices, don’t you think?

  8. Snowslow says:

    Another one bites the dust.

  9. Aang says:

    Biden is dead to me.

    • Wisca says:

      He is really dominating the polls though. Celebitchy is not representative of Dem likely voters. We are more left leaning by far. My hope is that the debates will show the strongest candidates to rally behind. I despise Biden & now see quite clearly why Obama chose him: he signaled to bigoted men that O was OK because school segregation-anti•choice-bank-controlled Uncle Joe said so. So although Obama lost the white vote, Joe kept enough of that demographic to contribute to two wins.

      • Betsy says:

        Eh. Most people don’t tune in till way later. Biden was VP FCOL, so he’s got name recognition like crazy.

  10. Jumpingthesnark says:

    Go home Joe. Just….. go home. It’s over.

  11. Lizzie says:

    sigh. this is why a 70+ year old man has no place in politics. old school = old.

    • Surly Gale says:

      There’s a wealth of experience and knowledge in an ‘old’ person……I won’t want Mr. Biden as our leader either, but oh, our young, handsome (some say….not my taste) Prime Minister has made a mess of things in oh, so many ways, I wish there was more experience behind him. He’s getting experience, but at what cost? Oh, yeah, at our cost! Neither Misters Biden or Sanders out to be running, but go all in and start supporting someone younger, with ideas and energy and smarts.

      • North of Boston says:

        Biden COULD have been the hugely influential elder statesman, as former VP and attack dog, picking up the torch that American politics demands former Presidents put down (for a while) when they leave office. He COULD have thrown his substantial support behind another candidate and never had his questionable, misogynist positions come to light. He would have been seen forever as Obama’s Bro-VP and someone who mattered.

        But he chose to run, only he knows why. And he gave away a shot at REALLY making a difference in the 2020 election.

  12. Darla says:

    He was whitewashed by ridiculous mad magazine memes, and his alleged close relationship with President Obama. I have always known who he is.

    WE, women, WE are the majority of the democratic base and his is disqualifying. Period.

  13. SamC says:

    This is so disappointing, especially in light of Biden’s leadership and ongoing support for the Violence Against Women Act, finding for the Office of Violence Against Women (several times this office was on the block to be cut and Biden’s influence saved it) and working to fight sexual harassment and assault in the military.

    • Otaku fairy... says:

      So many people refuse to see the connection between this kind of ‘morality ‘ and violence against women,

  14. Michael says:

    Biden had one thing going for him and that was Obama. Strip away his protection and all his past issues come back. I do not think he can win the nomination. Warren might though

  15. Lucy2 says:

    Do.Not.Want.

    Please people, don’t make him the nominee because I really don’t want to have to vote for him.

    • Wow says:

      Do they want voter apathy? Because joe Biden is how you get voter apathy.

      • Surly Gale says:

        Good point! The republicans certainly want voter apathy. Watch out…there may be fake Biden news coming out….and how would we ever be able to tell the difference?

  16. ChillyWilly says:

    “Joe Biden and men like Joe Biden should no longer have a seat at the f–king table.”
    Damn straight! I am so fed up with this horse shit!

  17. Darla says:

    And this aside (which I will NEVER put it aside), think about this. Trump is a fat old man who gasps for breath, and leans on podiums. People are visual. WHY would we nominate another old man to put next to him on a debate stage and give him that? Why would we do that? Why?
    IF I was going to go with a white man, I would vote Beto and have him up on the stage next to Trump, jumping up and down and on tables and whatever. THAT is a visual. Two barely animated near-corpses side-by-side is not a visual win for us.

    • Ali says:

      Two barely animated near-corpses side-by-side is not a visual win for us.

      +1

    • Megan says:

      The vitality of Clinton was a sharp contrast to a frail looking HW.

    • lucy2 says:

      Calls to mind the whole Nixon Kennedy televised debate.

    • Juls says:

      Couldn’t agree more. If we end up with a white male, it needs to be Beto. He is the only one with the stamina and charisma to beat Trump. Biden and Sanders are stale, moldy bread with bad ideas.

    • North of Boston says:

      Oh, please, not Beto. If it has to be a young white guy, can’t we go for Pete Buttigieg?

      Though, personally, I’d rather see any one of a number of the qualified women running be up there head to head with Trump. Warren or Harris, and others would pwn Trump all day, every day.

  18. Rebecca says:

    I’ll say it once again: I’m not going to vote for this man and I know many other women will refuse to vote for him also. He could care a less about women’s rights. Please, if you want Trump out of office, choose another candidate. Please!

    • Betsy says:

      I don’t want this man and won’t like to vote for this man, but FFS haven’t you learned anything from the past two years? The GOP might hate a candidate but they fall in line and reap the rewards. Four more years of Trump would be tons, eons, eras worse than a Biden. Vote blue no matter what.

  19. HK9 says:

    Joe who?

  20. Scal says:

    Joe Biden has run for president 2 previous cycles and has never even won a single PRIMARY race-and now he’s being heralded as the great liberal savior who’s going to win the general? Yea no. Take all the seats.

    I’m really getting tired of a certain section of the left telling women/POC/LGBTQ that they need to sit down in the name of not picking the ‘best’ candidate, but the most ‘electable’ one. We can all see what you’re doing, and those two things are not mutually exclusive. What they really mean is the white guy who will return things to the status quo. As if Hilary lost not because of Russian interference or a messed up electoral college or the fact that she was a long time political entity with decades of baggage-nope must be because she was a woman. Even though 2018 cycle should show that’s anything but the case.

    I’m not going to be bullied into voting for Biden or Sanders in the primary in the name of electability

    • Jess says:

      Amen, Scal!

    • Parigo says:

      Sanders is not electable.

      • Wisca says:

        I’m terrified by the “vetting”/GOP distortions / antisemitism they will unleash on Bernie. I want to be clear that American must, & will one day have a Jewish candidate for President, I just know that Bernie will be in for a very rough road.

  21. Tourmaline says:

    I really wish Biden was not the Democrat nominee front runner, unfortunately polls are showing he is the front runner by a big margin. Although it is early, luckily.

    The gateway drug analogy is so apt….in my view, abortion restrictions are the gateway to birth control restrictions, which lead naturally to “putting women in their place” (under male dominion) by taking away other rights, removing women from employment, voter rolls, any public life.

    Along these lines, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is putting together a group to re-work human rights protections into “natural law” viewpoints. This was reported last week by Politico. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/30/human-rights-state-department-1348014
    Natural law can be decoded to mean white patriarchy and religious fundamentalism. It is why the U.S. has refused to join many international human rights efforts during this administration- because they include women’s health in the calculation. We don’t need a Democrat nominee who espouses this world view.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I would argue further – abortion rights are the gateway to destroying all female rights. Because the moment you say women can’t abort, you’re effectively turning their bodily autonomy into a subject of state policing. It moves us to a position of subhuman agency and leaves us at the mercy of future encroachment of government on bodies and minds. Men have used women’s reproductive status against us for millennia for exactly that reason. A woman entrapped by child and pregnancy is one who can’t gain economic freedom and has no time to pursue political agency.

  22. Jess says:

    I’m glad he’s saying this stuff because the sooner people realize just how bad and out of touch he is, the sooner we can stop talking about him being the “only one” who can beat Trump. Republicans have the policy support of about 30% of America (depending on the issue) and yet control the White House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court because they will take any little bit of power they have and run with it – and beat the other side down. Dems will have the support of 70% of America and still apologize and try to compromise with the extremists on the other side. Obama, as much as I loved him, was guilty of this. We’ve got to stop worrying about appeasing the extremist right wing because they’re bad for America (well, unless you’re a rich racist white straight cis guy) but that’s all Biden has done since he started campaigning.

    • S says:

      All of this. 👏👏👏

    • Parigo says:

      This. He seems to think he can skate into the nomination with minimal effort. The more he talks the more his numbers will drop.

    • Fluffy Princess says:

      This x 1000! YES!!

      We discuss how spineless the Repubs are for not telling that Orange menace to shove it, but Dems are equally spineless. They are always trying to accommodate the other side in the name of fairness, when fairness is NEVER been applied by Repubs towards Dems.

      EF them and the bus they rode in on!

  23. Cojii says:

    I’d still vote for him if it was him vs Trump but I’m completely over being lead by a bunch of old men.

  24. S says:

    Keep in mind that Joe Biden was arguing against including birth control in the ACA, “because Catholics,” at the same time a peer-reviewed study showed 98% of Catholics use some form of non-natural birth control in their lifetimes.

    76 year old Joe Biden is a man of 1968—and probably not even the best of them then, either— not 2020.

  25. Elisabeth says:

    i think Joe is just too old. I’m tired of putting the news on and seeing nothing but old men talking about fixing the world/rights/earth with nothing but condescending bullshit in their mouths.
    Part of me believes Joe got pressured into running and is using this Hyde to tank his run..

    Everything is so exhausting

  26. Chrissyms says:

    Joes ego and unreasonable need to run in the election after having disastrous presidential bids in the past is not doing anything for the country. He is a dinosaur. Move over Joe. It’s like Hillary all over again. Seriously

  27. Chrissyms says:

    Joes ego and unreasonable need to run in the election after having disastrous presidential bids in the past is not doing anything for the country. He is a dinosaur. Move over Joe. It’s like Hillary all over again. Seriously

  28. Poppy says:

    America please do yourselves a favour and vote for mayor Pete. Stop sporting ppl like Biden, that support the status quo.
    Look into the future, choose your future

  29. Jocey says:

    “It’s 2019, if you don’t understand by now that birth control, access to affordable reproductive care and yes, abortion are all fundamental HUMAN RIGHTS, then I’m sorry, I don’t give a f–k about what you have to say about anything else.”

    A-fucking-men. Biden needs to sit down and shut the fuck up. He won’t, of course, but maybe if enough people suggest it we’ll end up with a better Democratic nominee.

  30. GR says:

    Thank you for posting this. I really hope I don’t have to vote for this jackass – I’ve hated him since 1992, for what he did to Anita Hill. Bernie can F off too.

  31. Lindy says:

    Hate him. Hate hate hate the idea of him getting the Dem nom. Literally the only way I will vote for him is if he is the one running against Trump because it’s too dangerous to vote third party or not vote. But he is a huge no. F”*k this. Makes me so ragey.

  32. TheOriginalMia says:

    He wasn’t getting my vote anyway. He’s been largely riding on his past as VP, but when he does deign to open his mouth, he reinforces my decision to not vote for old white men.

  33. adastraperaspera says:

    The Hyde amendment was created back in the 70s as a concession to anti-choice groups. Does it need to be repealed? Yes. Did Obama find a way to do that when he worked on the ACA? No. It’s not an easy thing, and it’s going to take more time, as demographics change and our country continues to modernize. Today, Catholic and other religious Democrats still hold a lot of power in our party, and many of them are in the congress and other leadership positions. I don’t see Democrats staying strong without the support of this bloc. I think the Hyde amendment issue is being publicized this week as a way to divide Democrats. The only litmus test for me is that a candidate says they are pro-choice and has demonstrated their support for pro-choice legislation.

  34. GirlMonday says:

    All these hats in the 2020 ring gives Democrats the perfect chance to do what they need to: (1) rebrand, (2) curate and coalesce around some driving values, (3) grow a pair (of tatas, waaaaaay sturdier than balls), and (4) inaugurate a new face and leader of the party. Bernie and Biden may recapture a few fence-sitters that went Trump in 16, but they aren’t going to get all of the Democrats that voted in 08 and 12 but stayed at home in 16 because they felt Hilary didn’t give them something to believe in. There are more of us. We won the popular vote, even when our turnout sucked. I don’t think Biden is or will give us the “something to beleive in” that we need to lead us to the actual water so that we will stop drinking the sand.

  35. TQB says:

    I know you guys got kind of burnt out on the political stuff (and who could blame you?) but for the record, I absolutely love the blunt and unequivocal stance you take when you cover it. It’s refreshingly honest and uncompromising.

  36. Gia says:

    I support pro-choice and I am all for family planning with all that is included: contraception and family planning and emergency contraception and abortion and more …
    But I also know that just getting emotional about candidate Biden’s choice of support isn’t going to get us anywhere. See, it is this:

    Biden is trying to steal trump’s votes.
    He must think there is a chance his support of the hyde amendment would get him somewhere. Biden knows how the election game is played:
    There are think tanks and companies who produce surveys about which group has which opinion on which matter and the candidates do know this stuff. They pay for it. And then they say it in order to get the votes of certain groups.

    So if Biden says that then there must be a group of voters big enough that he panders to their opinions.

    pro-life supporters “shouldn’t have a seat at the table” ??? *biggrin*
    They had a seat at the table in the last election which was won by Trump who pandered to these groups, too. Get real. These voters are still there. Shunning them or bashing them or trashing them won’t help.

    • Wisca says:

      They are not pro-life because most of them are pro war, against the social safety net for any groups beyond their own, and they support the death penalty. In other words, the are a forced-birth movement who hate women and women’s bodily autonomy. No one is going to stand up to forced birthers except the Democratic party. There is no other organized group to do this work on a Mass Scale. Bill Clinton tried to be reasonable with the term “safe, legal and rare,” and they responded by stealing a Supreme Court seat & an election to push minority views on all women, including victims of rape and incest (including children). They are a theocratic cult and we can no longer reason with them. Remember, there are children being left in vans on our border, children who have died, and families being torn apart by this so-called family values pro-life party. Biden embraces much of this white patriarchal vision. He actually believes that trump is an aberration instead of a symptom of a woman-hating cult.

  37. Christo says:

    Just let Trump win. No vote for the Democratic nominee means Trump will win.

    Please remember: Trump offers you no room for negotiation. He has the far right wing backing him with no grounds for compromise.

    With Biden or any other Democrat, you have the party and any number of key groups as well as Democratic constituents to leverage the choices that are ultimately made.

    The choice is yours. Think like a chess player or simply continue to lose the larger war on your bodies with each election.

    Yes, such things shouldn’t be up for negotiation for any person or party, but we don’t live in an ideal world. Wait it out with the expectation of your ideal, perfect candidate and you will see all your liberties rolled back quickly,

    Have hopes and expectations, but don’t be stupid.

    • Ali says:

      I am 100% supporting the democratic nominee in the general election whoever it is but it makes me angry that “democratic” Catholics think they can still legislate a woman’s body on religious grounds in 2019 and have to be pandered to on that basis because they can’t see the writing on the walls or the future of the country with another Trump term.

  38. Jess says:

    It seems like this is news to people. He’s Catholic and he’s spent his entire career leaning to the right SPECIFICALLY to not alienate right-leaning Catholics. His career spans decades. And he was doing it as Obama’s VP with pushing against coverage for contraception under the ACA. This is not news. The only reason it woukd be news is if people haven’t been paying attention to what he really believes, how he really acts and what his actual positions are.

  39. tuille says:

    I certainly have preferences for the Democratic candidates but I will vote for anyone who’s nominated to run against DT.

  40. Danielle says:

    I’m really tired of people lumping Bernie and Creepy Joe in the same sentence. One is a true blue Progressive who has spent his life dedicated to public service and speaking the truth even when it was unpopular and is now seeing his talking points parroted to get the millenial vote and the other is literally human garbage. There are plenty of reasons to not want to vote for Bernie, but don’t act like they are cut from the same cloth. And one more thing. This “vote blue no matter who” this early in the primary is hurting us. Fuck Biden. Make it clear he will NOT be accepted. This is the time to hammer out policies and find the best candidate. Beating Trump is important, but it won’t fix the rotten core of America that enabled him to be elected in the first place. We need to get our priorities straight.

    • christo says:

      Danielle, show me an electoral map of how Bernie Sanders wins the Presidency. All of what you say is nice until you hit the wall of whether or not the man is electable. You seriously think Bernie will squeak out an electoral win? If you do, please list the states that he will win.

      NO ONE CARES ABOUT CANDIDATES WHO CANNOT WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

      If you do not win, you DO NOT get the chance to change ANYTHING. And this isn’t the place to now discuss how unfair the electoral college is. REMEMBER: Until the rules change, THE GAME DOES NOT.

      Again, show me an electoral map of how Bernie Sanders wins North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, or Florida? I would LOVE to see it. You do understand that there is some basic math involved here. People don’t get elected if the VOTES AREN’T THERE.

      Short of an outright economic downturn worthy of 2008, Bernie will need FORCES OUTSIDE HIMSELF to make a MAJORITY of people in the states that I mentioned vote for him.

      People like you will cost us the Presidency and other offices for many more years until some middling Clinton-type moderate is finally elected after you make the REST of us suffer through the losses of these Mondale and Dukakis idealists.

      SORRY, but NOT SORRY. I, nor anyone else, should have to suffer these slights for YEARS because people like you aren’t satisfied until you get your IDEAL…and even then your types eventually give up the ghost to settle for A WIN. The real world is calling, Please check it out and make a trip to Ohio/Florida and honestly ask yourself if you REALLY think that Bernie will get those electoral votes in those states.

      • H says:

        I live in FL, and you are spot on. No one here except maybe in Miami and Broward County will vote for Bernie. I’m voting Blue no matter what, but I am realistic about Bernie’s chances against Trump in Florida and they are zip.

      • wowza says:

        Christo, sorry not sorry, but the tone of this post and random capitalization reminds me of a conservative seeing red and spitting mad.

        Danielle spoke measuredly and only said she would vote with her heart for the freaking primary. She has a right to say that. I keep seeing a certain type of Democrat berating anyone that isn’t toeing their “we need to get out of this mess by electing a centrist” plan, as if any of us can predict what will happen in the next election cycle (when Trump announced his candidacy, who among us would have predicted he would win it all, don’t lie to yourself), and it saddens me.

        A nice chunk of the base is being alienated with this utter condescension and disrespect, and it makes me feel like we’re almost as stupid as the loons on the Right, just in a different way. Aka, I’ll keep fighting, but I think we might just be fuc*ed.

      • Ali says:

        Florida continually fails this country.

  41. Rachelina says:

    *Insert Leslie Knope “Boy, that’s disappointing ” Gif here.

  42. CES says:

    For anyone reading and I hate to have to share this, but you can take too much vitamin C to force a miscarriage. You can buy vitamins from CVS or any pharmacy.

  43. lisanne says:

    It amazes me how some people already think they know how this election will play out and that we must vote for Biden to beat Trump. You don’t like Biden, then put some energy/cash into supporting the person(s) you do like. Joe doesn’t need your money so no need to worry about hedging your bets.

  44. Trashaddict says:

    One candidate down…..