Thomas Markle will likely never meet his Sussex grandchild, royal commentator claims


Do you realize it’s been almost two full months since we’ve even talked about or thought about Thomas Markle? I had to look through our archives to be sure – mid-February was the last big kerfuffle with Toxic Thomas. He sold Meghan’s handwritten letter to the British tabloids and basically wrote himself out of the f–king narrative he was trying to push, that Meghan never contacted him or that he was so sad and aggrieved. No, the letter proved that Meghan contacted him after her wedding and gave him strict instructions for what to do and not do if he ever wanted to have a relationship with her. He lied for months. He sold her for months. And after he sold that letter, it definitely feels like there was a shift in how the British papers spoke about him and wrote about him. Meghan’s next-level chess strategy worked. But for how long?

The biggest concern is obviously that Thomas and Samantha (Meghan’s half-sister) will find ways of making nuisances out of themselves around the birth of Baby Sussex. Meghan has seemingly left room for reconciliation with Thomas at some point after the birth, so maybe that’s why he’s been so quiet. But would Meghan actually reconcile with Toxic Tom? One royal commentator says no:

A royal commentator has claimed that Thomas Markle will never see his grandchild, in an explosive new preview for TLC documentary Meghan and Harry: A Royal Baby Story, which discusses the impending birth of the royal baby. Duncan Larcombe, author of Prince Harry: The Inside Story, admitted the likelihood of the Duchess of Sussex’s estranged father reuniting with Meghan when she welcomes her firstborn child with Prince Harry this spring, was low.

Discussing the impending birth of the royal baby, Larcombe says: ‘I can’t think for a moment that Thomas Markle will ever be able to meet his grandson or granddaughter.’

The clip then cuts to Samantha, who snipes: ‘You can’t hurt people like this and then turn around and flip the script and play victim’.

[From The Daily Mail]

The thing is, I think Meghan would sincerely be open to it IF her father behaved himself and really made changes as to how he spoke to the media, or if he stopped speaking at all to the media. But I just don’t see that happening. I think that, like, three days after Meghan gives birth, Piers Morgan will be interviewing Samantha and Thomas together. So no, I don’t think Thomas will ever see this grandchild. And that’s on him.

Sussex Morocco reception

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  1. H says:

    Unfortunately, sometimes you have to cut out toxic members of your family for your own mental health. Unless Meghan’s father never ever talks to the press again I would not allow him to see that child.

    • Kittycat says:

      I completely agree.

      I have cut off toxic members of my family whi think nothing if emotionally abusing me.

      Some people just dont need to be in your life.

      • BlueSky says:

        Same here. I have a toxic family member who I limit my interactions with. I actually completely cut off a former friend/coworker who was emotional manipulative and gaslighted me when we worked together. After I left that job the first thing I did was block her number. That was 2 years ago and I’m a happier person now that I’m away from her.

      • Aims says:

        I had to cut my father off. I decided that the cycle had to stop. When I had my kids I came to the conclusion that my children deserved respect and away from someone who was hateful and toxic. For whatever reason I thought I didn’t have a choice when it came to him. But I did have a decision when it came to my children. He never met his grandchildren and when he passed away, I felt relief. None of us kids went to his funeral. So, I absolutely believe you have the right to cut out people who are harmful to your peace and well-being. Just because you’re related doesn’t mean you are allowed to be treated badly.

    • HeyThere! says:

      H I’m 100% with you on this. We don’t have to put up with toxic people just because they are family. Nobody HAS to be in my life. I have cut off many friends over the last ten years, and a few family members, because as I age I realize I don’t have to have you in my life. It was the best decision I ever made, cutting toxic people out of my life! LOL I often forget they even breathe air. It’s peaceful and powerful to take control and to realize you deserve more.

      MM clearly has a forgiving heart and I bet she would love nothing more than to reconnect BUT he would have to never speak to media again, ever. I just don’t think he can do that. They money must be too easy and good. How sad for Meghan. I really feel for her on this.

  2. Lucia says:

    Meghan played the long game and won. Regardless of how one feels about Meghan, I can’t imagine her dad and the other daughter have any credibility left with anyone after that. He’s gone out of his way to prove he’s a liar. How dumb is he?

    However, I have a funny feeling that since the transition of offices that there’s been some contact with Buckingham Palace or contact of some sort. This quiet seems….suspicious. I also suspect there may have been a fallout between the other daughter and dear old Papa.

    I just hope Meghan realizes how abusive he’s been before she considers reconciliation but it’s ultimately up to her. I personally wouldn’t consider it.

    • Rhys says:

      When you are dealing with feuding relatives, nobody wins. She didn’t win and she didn’t play any games. She did the only thing possible, distance herself from this toxic man and see where things go. It will not be resolved for many years and she’ll have to deal with it.

      • Lucia says:

        When I say she won the PR Game, I mean it’s clear she expected the letter to be released at some point and with it, she knew all of Thomas’ credibility would be compromised. I work in Human Resources for a PR firm for large corporations so I sometimes forget the human element when it comes to PR matters and don’t communicate on that level.

        As a daughter/father relationship, everyone lost. Completely. But Thomas has no one to blame but himself. The other daughter is just vile.

  3. teehee says:

    And it should never have to be around him. Theres plenty of toxic people, but if you can avoid them, you should.
    This guy is all too easy to spot and thus avoid.

  4. Ellie says:

    And he shouldn’t… He absolutely doesn’t deserve a relationship with his granddaughter when he can’t even treat his own daughter properly and continually bad mouths her to the press. The first mistake was him running to the media and trying to cash in on his daughter’s newfound royal fame. He had every opportunity to set-up this relationship properly with Meghan, Harry, and his grand daughter, and he completely blew it.

  5. Loretta says:

    If Thomas was my father I can tell you that he would never meet my baby. He’s so toxic and awful.

  6. Elle says:

    I know I clicked. I will not in the future. Celebitchy, please stop giving this man airspace.

    • Bella Bella says:

      👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Agreeing with Elle. It’s been such a relief not to see this man abuse his daughter.

    • TheHeat says:

      I agree. By keeping the conversation open about these people, we are telling cretins like Piers Morgan, that there is profit potential with these silly people’s stories. And, to them, profit is all that matters.

    • Sharon Lea says:

      But if I click here, then I am not clicking on the Daily Mail site. I feel like Celebitchy is providing a service for us ;)

  7. Jan says:

    I wonder if he hasn’t had any offers from the press to blab and that’s why we haven’t heard anything. People were tired of it so they quit paying him. When the baby comes they will offer him money again and we will see his crap.

  8. Rapunzel says:

    Even if he kept quiet, I’m not sure I’d let him see the baby. He could just be quiet to gain access, and go to the press after seeing the baby. I think Meg knows this.

    • Bri W. says:

      Exactly. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him around my child

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Yeah I can see this being what he’d try, keep quiet till he gets what he wants and them boom, its all over the press and he’s raking in the money and revelling in the attention.

  9. JRenee says:

    He has proven to be untrustworthy. No one owes toxic family members anything

  10. Who ARE These People? says:

    If they shield the baby from him, it’s called responsible parenting.

  11. Sash says:

    Well, that’s a given. For her own sanity, she needs to cut off the toxicity. He’s not owed a relationship with his grandchild if he hasn’t earned it.

  12. Dtab says:

    I haven’t spoken to my father in nearly 20 years, even though some of my siblings have contact with him. He has never met my kids and never will….sometimes you just have to cut toxic people out of your for your own sanity.

  13. Montrealaise says:

    He has other grandchildren. Why doesn’t he focus on having a relationship with them? Oh, right – he can’t make money off them.

  14. asdfa says:

    I think three days is extremely conservative- more like one day

  15. ShockandAwwww says:

    Seeing all of this drama play out legitimately helped me see that the source of my mental unwellness is abuse. I literally ended up in the ER in January because I lost 20 lbs in only a few weeks and my heart felt like it was going to explode out of my chest. It was too painful to confront it head on until I was witnessing someone else experience it in real time. My family is racist, bigoted, horrifically abusive trash. I would NEVER allow my mother to manipulate my own kids into an abusive relationship, especially since I know she would only gaslight me further by doing so. What’s more, she and my dad absolutely are NOT entitled to meet my kids. They are deeply unwell people, and since my dad straight-up refuses to get help, and my mom literally witch cackles at the suggestion that she has ever done anything wrong, they have given me no other choice.

    I am free to choose. I am free to exclude. It is not up to them anymore, and it never will be again.

    • Lady D says:

      You’ve gained freedom, congratulations and don’t look back. Next comes peace. You will find the inner strength you didn’t know you had intoxicating although it won’t feel like that at first.

    • sparker says:

      I’m so sorry for what you’re going through, it’s terrible how far that toxic influence can extend into your life. I know this pain, and the resentment for it which threatens any tenuous progress you make. My mom went on about how i abandoned her which i thought incredulous until i saw the facebook support group for parents like her and daddy Markle, WTF?! My mothers abuse told me i didn’t belong so i built a life where i do belong and now i protect it. I wish you the strength to do the same.

  16. lolalola3 says:

    Hahaha. “Likely never meet his grandchild” however, his desire to keep profiting from the grandchild will continue forever. The utter gall of this man never ceases to amaze me. Meghan and her marriage was the best thing to ever happen to his bank account.

  17. Vanessa says:

    I believe Meghan and Harry are truly done with Thomas the letter that Meghan wrote Thomas was his goodbye letter . The only people holding on to narrative that Thomas has place in Meghan life are the daily mail and the Sun because Thomas and his awful other daughter are the only ones who are willing to talk crap about Meghan for a paycheck . Meghan and Harry will not allow Thomas anywhere nears their baby Thomas doesn’t care about being father or grandfather he cares about the public opinion about him . Him And Samantha overplayed Their hands they both got played by Meghan while they were busy running their mouths about how awful and mean Meghan is because she hasn’t contact dear oh dad Meghan was playing the long game . She knew her friends would drop the recipes about the letter she knew her father and sister would have no choice but to admit that they lied about her not communicating with Thomas she knew her father would release that letter and the truth would come out. The only people buying what Thomas And Samantha are selling are people who don’t already like Meghan .

    • Yoyo says:

      I also think that letter was a goodbye letter, five detailed pages about his lying behavior, and he sold 2 or 3 pages, can you imagine what was on the other pages.
      He was dumb enough to think he was showing up Meghan, saying the letter was a dagger to his heart, when it proved he is a liar, claiming he had no way of reaching her, when he replied to her letter and asked her and Harry to pose for a picture with him.
      Denied that Meghan ever gave him money, when he was asking her for more money.
      Ever think the reason why he is mad at Harry, because after the engagement Meghan stopped his allowance and he blames Harry for it.
      Then when he asked to speak at the wedding Harry told him to talk to Meghan about it and she said NO, he must have blown a fuse.
      Then he went into game playing, coming to the wedding not coming, Mehgan announced that he was not coming and pull the rug from under him. Then he showed his true colors, evil papa smurf.

  18. Anastasia says:

    Toxic people suck SO MUCH. But getting away from them? There’s no better feeling!

    • Lucia says:

      So true Anastasia.

      I have Relapse/Remitting Multiple Sclerosis. I don’t say that for pity – in many ways being diagnosed was a blessing in disguise. One thing my neurologist told me when I was diagnosed was that in her career, who made an effort to live a consistent and peaceful life tended to have less relapses and a better prognosis. She believed prognosis depended on one’s life outlook.

      When I was diagnosed, I was getting bogged down with a lot of family drama. I went into therapy and I realized I had A LOT of toxic family members and friends. They are no longer part of my life and honestly, my life is better for it. I have the people in my life that matter the most. I haven’t gotten nearly as sick as I was when I was first diagnosed. Even in this relapse (which is really my first major one since dx 5 years ago – and why I’ve been on here so much), I still feel a rather positive outlook on life and my health. 5 years ago, I feel I was an incredibly negative person due to putting up with all of the toxic people in my life.

      • CairinaCat says:

        I hope you feel better quickly!
        I’m glad this site gives you some pleasure

      • Lucia says:

        Aw, thank you, Cairinacat! I’m feeling a lot better after a week. I’m on FMLA for several weeks in hopes my symptoms that have been bugging me for months clear up on the really good drugs (that require me to go in and get hooked up to an IV 3x week) and get some physical therapy. I’m on the up and up.

      • Some chick says:

        I hope you heal up well and swiftly.

        I too found that avoiding negative people greatly improved my outlook on life. I had a friend who always teased me, and I just got tired of it – like, say something nice for once! Not being around that was a huge relief.

        Excellent advice and I hope you feel better soon.

  19. aquarius64 says:

    @Lucia or anyone- the Fail’s story said none of Markles are coming to the UK for the birth. Do you think the Grey men got a hold of Dad, show the opposition research they did on him and threatened to spill pots of tea on him if he causes more problems therefore the silence?

    • Lucia says:

      I would not be surprised if that happened in the slightest, aquarius. Of course no one will ever know for sure and I can’t say that I’m firm that’s my belief on the matter. But if someone showed me evidence he got a house call from The Grey Men, I wouldn’t blink. I definitely think something is behind his silence.

  20. Amelie says:

    After he released the letter and the backlash that came along with it, I think Thomas Markle realized he had been played. Meghan knew her friends mentioning the letter in that People Magazine article would cause him to release it–he just couldn’t help himself to try to “prove” his side. And instead it supported Meghan’s claims. And no press outlet would take him seriously after that. If we do hear from him, it’ll just be the same old “It’s so unfair for Meghan to deprive me of meeting my grandchild” and “I didn’t do anything wrong.”

    As for Meghan’s sister, she will probably continue to rant against Meghan for the rest of her life. But as time goes on, less and less people will take notice.

    • Lucia says:

      100% this.
      It seems now only the sleaziest sources will touch the Thomas and Samantha Markle. Both specials including Samantha crashed and burned. I think the Markle Trash squandered any capital they had with the media.

  21. Bunny says:

    First, I really appreciate y’all giving attention to this issue. So many of us are cut off from family due to various types of abuse. We’re pushed and told that “you only have one family” and that we need to forgive over and over and over, no matter the level of abuse.

    Seeing this play out publicly is sad, but hopefully enlightening to those who push reconciliation at any cost.

    Secondly, I not only doubt that Thomas & Company will ever see Baby Sussex, but I doubt that Meghan ultimately has much say in the matter.

    The baby is a member of the BRF and they will not allow the baby to be used by the relatives to sell interviews. Period, end of.

    The BRF will not allow the baby to form relationships with people who have already crowed about “grandparents rights”, who have encouraged online abuse and talk of surrogates.

    I recall William and Harry being subject to rules about which of their mother’s friends they were allowed to meet after the divorce. This is the same thing, but much more serious.

    It will literally never happen, and Meghan won’t have a say in the matter.

    Her thoughts almost certainly precisely align with the BRF’s, which is good. I hope it lightens any burden she may carry to know that the decision is out of her hands.

    • Lucia says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the BRF gave Meghan and Harry some deference on the matter. But I think with Harry’s influence, it’s will never happen.

  22. SpilldatT says:


    I hope he or any of her sell-out family and ex-friends ever set eyes on her or the baby again.

    Go away already!

  23. Dark and Stormy says:

    I would not let him anywhere near my child after all his sh*t.

  24. aquarius64 says:

    Look what I found in the Fail. Meghan’s uncle is talking

    I bet he got a ton of money from the Fail because this is a fresh story. Outside his wife being salty about not going to the wedding and Princess Michael’s racist brooch it was a mostly positive piece. I love it when hereffered to the Markles as degeneraets.

    • Lucia says:

      Fail has lost a lot of credibility with their anti-Meghan pieces. They’re trying to save face. Nothing more. It’s time to end the cycle.

      • aquarius64 says:

        I think they just threw the Markles under the bus. They bring nothing new to the table. The Ragland are a fresh angle.