Amber Heard’s restraining order request has details of Depp’s alleged attacks


Various outlets have obtained the text of Amber Heard’s restraining order request against Johnny Depp, which was granted. The details of Johnny’s alleged attacks, and of his behavior in general, are chilling. The court documents detail two incidents of abuse (update: another incident is referenced, see this article), each a month apart and the most recent one this Saturday. Johnny allegedly pulled Amber’s hair, threw things at her, and abused her. She states that he threw a cell phone at her this Saturday, hitting her in the eye. Photos of her bruises, including photos taken at her court appearance earlier today, support this. Amber maintains that Johnny has a substance abuse problem and has been abusive to her throughout their relationship:

Johnny has been abusive for their entire relationship, has a drug and alcohol problem
“During the entirety of our relationship, Johnny has been verbally and physically abusive to me

“I endured excessive emotional, verbal, and physical abuse from Johnny, which has included angry, hostile, humiliating and threatening assaults to me whenever I questioned his authority or disagreed with him.

“I live in fear that Johnny will return to (our house) unannounced to terrorize me, physically and emotionally,

“Johnny has a long-held and widely-acknowledged public and private history of drug and alcohol abuse.

“He has a short fuse. He is often paranoid and his temper is exceptionally scary for me, as it has many times proven to be physically dangerous and/or life-threatening to me. Johnny [sic] relationship with reality oscillates, depending on his interaction with alcohol and drugs.

“As Johnny’s paranoia, delusions and aggression increase throughout our relationship, so has my awareness of his continued substance abuse. Because of this, I am extremely afraid of Johnny and for my safety… I am petrified…”

Amber states that Johnny abused her on April 21
Heard claims that on April 21, he showed up to a birthday party at their home “inebriated and high.” As a “bad argument” developed, she claims he threw a magnum bottle of champagne at the wall, and a wine glass on her. “He then grabbed me by the hair and violently shoved me to the floor.”
- From Radar and The AP


Amber had not seen Johnny for a month until this Saturday
On Saturday, May 21, Heard claims that she was having a conversation with two friends when Depp, 52, entered their downtown Los Angeles apartment. As the group of friends began to talk about the recent passing of Depp’s mom, the actor “began obsessing about something that was untrue” and became “extremely angry,” she states in the documents.

In attempt to help relieve the situation, Heard began calling a friend who Depp was requesting to speak to, she states.

“Johnny ripped the cell phone from my hand and began screaming profanities and insults at iO [the friend],” she said. “I heard iO yell at me to get out of the house. Johnny then grabbed the cellphone, wound up his arm like a baseball pitcher and threw the cellphone at me striking my cheek and eye with great force.” Heard submitted photos appearing to show a bruised eye as evidence.

Heard says she covered her face and began to cry, then actor “charged” at her and “taunted” her, questioning if the phone actually hit her.

“He then forcibly pulled back my hair as I attempted to stand up from the sofa,” she said. “I then yelled ‘Call 911′ – hoping it would be heard by iO who was still on the phone.”

“Johnny continued screaming at me, pulling my hair, striking me and violently grabbing my face,” she continued.

After a friend from next door entered the apartment with a key previously provided by Heard, Depp ran out of the apartment “smashing everything he could” with a wine bottle, Heard claims. She also submitted photos of damaged possessions. – From People

[From People and Radar]

Amber’s friend also submitted a declaration on her behalf stating that “Many times over the past few years, Amber has confided and complained to me about Johnny’s abusing her, both physically and verbally.”

Some people are saying they don’t believe Amber based on the fact that the police found no evidence of a crime. Bruises take some time to appear, and Amber chose not press charges or provide a statement to police. She’s married to an incredibly famous man and she’s an actress, she probably weighed her options at a time when she was under extreme stress and decided not to bring attention to the situation.

People Magazine has more photos of the scene and of Amber’s injuries which were submitted to the court. After seeing the photos of Amber’s injuries, and of how distraught she was outside of court, I absolutely believe her.

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  1. Birdix says:

    That’s awful. She has my sympathy.

    • Saks says:

      Yes. And as I said in the previous post, now everything about this situation makes sense, from the timing to why she was asking for money. Amber is probably ending her career with this, Johnny will blacklist her, and she has to know the humiliation and harassment is just about to start. She will be blamed and attacked.

      If knowing all of these, she is willing to take her abuser down, she has all my respect from now on.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        Yup. I never liked Amber until these recent revelations, but I have now have a lot of respect for her courage in going public by requesting a TRO. As you say, this will probably derail her career, and no doubt she knows this. Very few women would be willing to face the sh-tstorm of misogynistic comments and having a multimillion-dollar PR machine sent to chew them up when confronting such a high-profile, wealthy man with legions of fawning admirers.

        I hope Amber gets a big payday, because financial consequences are usually meaningful to abusers in a way that shame isn’t.

        Like a lot of CB commenters, I am old enough to remember Depp’s hotel-trashing days with Kate Moss, and while it surprised me that he’s engaging in violent behavior now (after what appeared to be a long stable period with Vanessa), it is certainly not a shock. Maybe his violence is almost entirely mediated by substance abuse (my money’s on cocaine), but (a) I doubt it and (b) I truly don’t care. Only resorting to physical abuse when you’re high doesn’t mean you’re not still an asshole once you’re sober.

      • Mel M says:

        Mine too. I knew there had to be more to the story and like I said yesterday. No one knows what went on behind closed doors and if he acted so ridiculous in public who knows what he was like in private. Well, now we know.

    • LA says:

      Anyone who doesn’t believe her because she initially declined to give the whole truth..please look up and listen to David Spade describe an attempted murder by his ex-assistant/friend. He, at first, refused to tell the police who attacked him even though he knew exactly who it was, and it was an employee. He did that for an employee. Not even a wife, girlfriend etc. It’s hard to give people you know and love up to the police. Men as well as women, friends or lovers.

      • Lahdidahbaby says:

        It’s a relief to hear someone say that, LA, because it really is hard to turn in someone you love. In my case, I was a coward as well as reluctant to ruin him. Amber is braver than I was. My husband was a well-known man in the public sector of a major US city, and he was prominently known as a champion of women’s rights, so I very realistically also feared that no one would believe me. In private he often hurt me physically and he constantly belittled me, even threatened me with a gun once – held it on me for over an hour and all the while I was certain I was about to die. But he was (believe it or not) doing a lot of public good and I didn’t want to ruin him – AND no one would have believed me. No one.

        One day he threw me across a room when I unwittingly said something he didn’t like, and when I hit the wall and bounced off it my forehead split on one side and my eye was blackened. I wasn’t even up yet from the floor I’d fallen to in a heap when he stood over me and said in this mild, creepy voice I’ll never forget, “What did you DO to youself?” I can’t explain why, but that moment was even more scary and chilling than what he’d just done to me.

        A few weeks later he was invited to cut the ribbon at the dedication of a battered women’s shelter in our city, and when he asked me to go along and stand beside him at the ceremony I said no. I told him it would be hypocritical, considering what he’d been doing to me at home. It was the first time I’d stood my ground, and I kept my word not to go, even while he raged at me and called me a bitch.

        I began making furtive plans right then and I left him two months later, after seven years of abuse, and moved 2,000 miles from my familiar home, the city where I was born and where my mother was born. Our friends thought I was horrible and cruel for leaving him, but I never told a single one of them what he’d done to me. I only told my mother. I left everything I knew to get far away from him. I left him a note letting him know that if he should hurt anyone else, – if I even thought he had – I would go public. He’s well known in his field nationally now, and is widely admired.

        There is no way I will ever judge any woman who turns in her well-known abuser – on the contrary, I’ll admire like hell the courage it takes to *out* an admired or beloved public figure.

        This all happened a long time ago, but every day I have to live with the knowledge that I was too afraid to become the center of a big public spectacle and too timid to risk his retribution and the disbelief of his legions of admirers. And finally – this is the most difficult part to admit – even after all he did to me, I also couldn’t bear to ruin him because I honestly believed in all the things he has fought for. Still do. They are my causes, too, and always were. So I admire Amber for risking public scorn, disbelief, and accusations. She’s braver than I was. I don’t like thinking of all the ways she will probably have to pay for it.

      • Gayle says:

        Dear sweet girl, I am in tears reading what you went through. Hope you have found peace.

      • kai says:

        Lahdidah, that was very moving. Thanks for sharing.

        I have a great deal of respect for Amber as well. I hope she has a lot of good friends around her and stays strong and safe.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        Lahdidahbaby, you are a very strong woman. Never doubt that. And I completely understand why the “What did you DO to youself?” moment creeped you out like nothing that came before. It was an incredibly aggressive, albeit subtle, statement by your abuser, that his credibility so far surpassed yours that it would be easier for people to believe you were clumsy or even self-harming, than to believe that he injured you. Or killed you.

        I’m glad you got out alive. It really is something to be proud of.

      • Suzy from Ontario says:

        Lahdidahbaby, I am so sorry to hear what you went through. It sounds horrific and you were very brave to manage to leave and get away from him. Don’t feel badly about not outing him. It’s very hard to do, especially when you feel like you won’t be believed and when you are still very vulnerable. I hope life is treating you much better now.

        As for Amber, I’m glad she came forward. No woman should stay with someone who is abusing her physically, mentally or emotionally. No one should live in fear like that. Johnny has been on a downward spiral for a while and maybe the negative attention he’ll get over this will get him into serious rehab so at least he’ll be able to have a decent relationship with his children and co-parent with responsibility. I don’t think anyone will blacklist Amber. Johnny’s days of real power are behind him,

      • Lahdidahbaby says:

        Gayle, Kai, Katherine, and Suzy–thanks so much for your understanding words. It just seemed as if Amber needed all the public validation and support she could get today, and I thought it might be helpful if some of that support came from a woman who’d been through a similar type of experience with a powerful and highly regarded man. It takes a lot of courage for her to do what she’s doing.

        And TOK, I was very interested in what you had to say about the psychology behind my former husband’s chilling words to me before I could even get up off the floor, that “It was an incredibly aggressive, albeit subtle, statement by your abuser, that his credibility so far surpassed yours that it would be easier for people to believe you were clumsy or even self-harming, than to believe that he injured you. Or killed you.” You honed right in on that and explained it so well. I know you are spot-on there.

      • imqrious2 says:

        Lahdidahbaby, you are so strong and brave! Your story broke my heart, yet it’s one that needs to be heard, so others can know they’re not alone. They need to know that they must get away and keep themselves (and children) safe.

        I hope you are healing. Sending you BIG hugs!

      • Sabrine says:

        I don’t believe her. She planted those minor injuries on her own face. When the cops went to their residence, there wasn’t a mark on her face and she made no mention of being hit. Sympathy for her is dwindling fast. It’s all at TMZ. It’s just unfortunate that Dep stupidly didn’t get a prenup. To get rid of her might cost quite a few of his millions.

    • C says:

      Now makes sense a blind item a couple of days ago talking about an actor violent relationship with a model….people were guessing him.

  2. lola says:

    There is not a single woman in the world deserves this sort of torture UNLESS they are the ones who will get physically violent toward their partners in the first place. There is no evidence here indicating Amber abused her husband and started threatening his life in some shape or form. How can anyone doubt her?

    If she were the one pulling out a knife, gun or started hitting/beating him, then it would be a different story.

    This whole situation is nothing short of horrific. I hope she will get out of this mess as quickly as she can. He needs to be thoroughly punished. Devastating.

    • Wren says:

      Wtf, unless? Nobody “deserves” it. That’s not to say self defense is never needed but that’s different than torture and abuse. A relationship can be mutually abusive, both parties would be in the wrong but still nobody deserves it. There’s no “get out of abusing your partner free” card. If she’d posed a danger to him and he defended himself that would be one thing, but this is a far cry from that.

    • Nic919 says:

      Women can be perpetrators of domestic violence and men can be the victims. Obviously that is not the case here. Depp has been sliding for a while, he just managed to hide it I guess. I would be curious to know if Vanessa Paradis also had to deal with this kind of behaviour.

      • Josephina says:

        I doubt that he was clean for 16-17 years while with Vanessa and then decided to turn out all of a sudden with Amber. When he was younger he was known to trash hotel rooms. Everyone has seemed to tolerate his behavior— up until now.

      • Eleonor says:

        Voices say Vanessa was able to “keep him quite”, they met in a moment when Johnny wanted to get clean, probably he stayed clean or menaged to stay decent (fatherhood, work) for years, but if you look back to how Vanessa was during the end of their relationship the perspective is different: she was painfully thin, she looked like crap most of the times probably she saw this coming, and probably at a certain point she put a stop before it was too late.

    • Fiorella says:

      Whether male or female, I’m pretty sure when one person pulls out a knife or gun, regardless of the other persons “right” to fight back no one fights someone holding a deadly weapon. What am I missing here?

  3. Down and Out says:

    This keeps getting uglier and uglier. Wishing Amber well right now.

    • isabelle says:

      If he truly is guilty of abusing her, seriously hope she does have a video. Just to shut the fanboys up that would take up for him no matter what.

  4. paleokifaru says:

    No one should feel unsafe in their own home. Period.

  5. Boo says:

    My heart goes out to her. This is horrific. I hope she’s kept safe and has good supports.

  6. AmyB says:

    No one will ever truly know the reality and details that occurred between them, but my heart goes out to any victim of physical/emotional/sexual abuse. Those who ask questions like “why didn’t they go to the police?” or “why didn’t they leave sooner?” obviously knows nothing about this stuff. I too have been a Johnny Depp fan, but I have seen him seemingly intoxicated and struggling with drug/alcohol issues in the media, just as everyone else has. I also thought Bill Cosby was a decent man once too. I have no doubt Depp’s attorneys will spin a different story, much like Charlie Sheen’s attorneys have done. For any victim of abuse of any kind…..get out, endure the fall out and get therapy. Your future will be so much brighter! For me, there is never an excuse for abuse EVER!!

    • Wren says:

      I’m really sad that all these men I used to like have turned out to be terrible people all along. It’s really disheartening.

      • AmyB says:

        I am right with you Wren on that one: goes to show that appearances never ever tell the whole story! I grew up in the 80s and 90s and if someone told me then that Bill Cosby was a serial rapist/abuser, I would have never believed it! It’s strange how all of the sudden there has been some light shed on the abuses that exist in Hollywood: Woody Allen (not new, but still renewed interest b/c of Ronan Farrow’s article), Charlie Sheen (he is most likely the person Corey Feldman talks about when he speaks of pedophilia in Hollywood), Bill Cosby, that Glee actor now indicted on child porn charges, and now Johnny Depp! UGH

      • Anna says:

        Maybe the tide is turning. Maybe society is changing for the better. Amber is another generation than Johnny. he didn’t realize that this new generation of women will not be shamed into covering up abusive behavior as his previous girlfriends obviously did. No, amber went to court, no matter the consequences. What happened to her is so horrible but I want to see the light here. Times are changing, let’s all hope this is what this is.

    • Berries says:

      Yes. That’s the scariest thing about abuse victims and something so few who have never been through this hell understand– how so many minimize and/or deny outright immediately after or while something takes place due not only to fear but the absolute havoc that been wreaked on their minds and souls from the abuse. I think that might be one of the cruelest things abusers do, because it sets the victims up to not be believed, and be judged and abandoned when they DO come forth. I believe her, 100%, and though I don’t think her intentions in being with him were pure it doesn’t matter in the face of abuse, and I just hope people can look past that and realize that doesn’t make her any less of a victim.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Exactly, AmyB. No excuse, ever.

  7. Pinky says:

    He’s a piece of crapola, especially for not dealing with his addictions 10, 20, 30, 35 years ago.

    –TheRealPinky

    • MrsBPitt says:

      While I totally agree with you that JD is a piece of crap…dealing with addictions is not as easy as saying, “I’m not going to drink anymore” or “I’m stopping the drugging”….addiction is a constant battle. I have known addicts, who are wonderful people. People who try to stay clean, and can for a while. Then slip, and are right back to a full addiction…Please do not think I am excusing JD for his abuse, because of his addictions, I’m not…not all addicts are violent..he had to have had that in him all along, and the addictions just made it worse…I loathe JD at this moment…

  8. lola says:

    And the injustice of the human race in general: from this day on, she will most likely be viewed as eternally ‘damaged goods’ – even by the people who will support and stand by her through this horrendous ordeal.

    Unfair.

    • Stacey says:

      I dont think so. This happens to women from
      All walks of life, all socio economic backgrounds. This is not her fault and quite the contrary, I think she is incredibley strong to leave him press charges and not take the pay off he offered. She is standing up for herself. I think she is strong and a good example for other women of DV

    • JenYfromTheBlok says:

      I’m not sure if “everyone” will think of her as “damaged goods”. She was the victim of domestic violence in an age & financially imbalanced marriage- with an addict. This woman was brave enough to leave and file a police report- she’s now a survivor not a victim. Only ignorant people would throw shame.

    • isabelle says:

      Unfortunately Hollywood has a long history of forgiving abusers.

    • qwerty says:

      Does ayone see Rihanna as such? She’s badass

    • BritAfrica says:

      ‘Damaged goods’? How exactly?? I was date raped at 19, some 20 years ago now. My family came to my rescue at the time. Have they been thinking that I’m ‘damaged goods’ all this time?

      The majority of civilised people in our first world countries don’t think that way anymore. She is the victim here and deserves every penny she gets from that scumbag. My free advice to his legal team? STFU and get your wallet out!

      • Sixer says:

        Celebrating you, BritAfrica. The furthest away from damaged goods that I can imagine.

      • BritAfrica says:

        @ Sixer

        Thank you. And Tina Turner will never be seen as damaged goods either. She was one hell of a fighter and a survivor.

  9. Stacey says:

    This is horrible. Amber is really strong to leave him and press charges. i personally know how hard it is to leave. Guaranteed this jack ass has done this to other women before her . She’s not only saving herself from future violence but maybe she’s saving the next girl too because Im positive he would have beat his next girlfriend too had he continue to go unpunished for this. He really needs help.

  10. k says:

    i’ve never liked her much, but i sympathize. coming from an abusive marriage with a husband who is a firefighter, it makes sense that she may not want to make a scene or may assume no one will believe her (EMS and police were always on his side and never believed that side of him existed; therefore reports and pictures never made a difference for me either). i’ve been there many times. i hope she remains strong.

    • paleokifaru says:

      I’m glad you were strong enough to get out. That had to have taken tremendous courage.

      • k says:

        thank you for the reply. that means a lot. it takes a lot of courage to do what she’s doing; to be up against someone that well known and to probably feel like she’s going to get ripped apart for standing up. i’m sure she already assumed she wasn’t going to be believed. especially considering the circumstances.

        these people – they have their tracks covered already (like my ex). it’s crucial to not automatically dismiss the victim. to truly hear both sides.

      • GingerNYC says:

        k, so glad you were able to get out safely. people don’t realize that wives/partners of firefighters often have just as rough of a road as those of regular law enforcement. stay safe and stay strong! and i wish for you all the blessings of the universe ;)

    • isabelle says:

      Glad you got out K.

    • Dlo says:

      @k, it took me 13+ yrs to get the courage up to go. Good for both you and Amber!

    • Lucy says:

      I can’t imagine how strong you must be to have gotten out! *hugs*

    • nicegirl says:

      So glad to hear you are safe, K. I wish you peace and happiness.

  11. lisa2 says:

    So according to Amber and what has been seen over the years. Johnny is still an active addict. I wonder why he never got attacked like so many others. There were very few tabloid stories of Johnny’s substance abuse. Now everyone has their eyes opened and things are different.

    I feel for Amber and anyone woman or man that is living through this nightmare. It is one thing to go through this is everyday life; but it must be very hard when the eyes of the world are on you watching and analyzing your every word or move. Johnny is out of the country and to date I don’t see his people making comments. This is sad.

    • paleokifaru says:

      At least in these thread there was A LOT of speculation about his addictions. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you told me that wasn’t the case on other sites. I know a lot of people who are Depp mega fans and he truly has a cult of followers.

      • SusanneToo says:

        You’re right. On DM a lot of posters say she’s lying or deserved it.

      • lisa2 says:

        To be honest. Many of the complaints about Johnny stem more from his appearance than suspected substance abuse. If Johnny was looking like his “HOT SELF” I doubt many comments would even talk about substance abuse. There have been many pictures of Johnny looking to be stumbling around. being assisted by his BG.. holding on to him. You don’t see that with most celebs. yes they have BG but they walk away from the client. Johnny’s BG is always touching him and holding him steady. The comments started to change when Johnny’s looks started to go South. Before that the supposed substance abuse was discussed; but glossed over by the majority of the people.

        I’ve looked through the archives. It’s always good to do that so you can see the patterns.

    • bettyrose says:

      I also wonder if 1. he’s gotten worse and 2. he’s especially aggressive towards her because he desires to “own” her and was frustrated by the reality of her being a real life complex human being rather than his toy.

    • noway says:

      He was a known addict around the time River Pheonix died at the Viper Room with him there, but he could have been clean for many years who knows. I do think he has mostly been an addict as long as he has been married to Amber, as at several award shows he has seemed quite high. It really isn’t a stretch what she has said, but I doubt there will be any criminal resolution. As my guess, someone will get him sober enough and they will settle with the whole story not being told as part of the settlement.

      • Sheila says:

        Yeah, funny how the world ignored that he provided the means and opportunity to get someone killed. It’s like the Bill Cosby thing, everyone is sooo shocked, but the Cosby we grew up with as the gentle, responsible father figure on sitcoms and the guy who wrote all those books and did all that charity work w as quite the wild partier in the 60s and 70s. And that’s how far the complaints go back. So there’s always clues and warning signs that people have just been choosing to ignore. Woody Allen literally allowed himself to be quoted saying it shouldn’t surprise people if they found him one day in a love nest with a twelve year old, and people were like “Ohh, Woody, you’re so funny!”

    • Lucy says:

      He might not drink when he’s working. I know a vaguely well known (Broadway, not movie) actor who’s an alcoholic but he never drinks or shows up drunk to work and everyone protects him because they think he’s a genius.

    • Ladydee says:

      Perhaps the media had not idea of JD’s addiction/violent behavior because he was able to fortress himself on his private island or home in the South of France? Also, when he was a pretty young thing no cell phones existed, so he had more of a free pass. I think he is in free fall with insecurity, and is obs self medicating. He may also be going through male menopause. Regardless, he’s off the rails and is a bona fide creep. How’d he like to see his daughter treated like this? Despicable behavior of the uber rich.

  12. Amanda G says:

    I applaud her courage to stand up and out a famous and well liked actor like Depp as an abusive husband. What is sad is that his career will only take a small hit for this and hers will probably be over.

    • siri says:

      YES!! But I do think there are other people knowing about this (neighbours, friends) for a while, so she might ( hopefully) not be alone in this.

    • Tosca says:

      I agree Amanda. I think this is such a gendered issue. Automatically men are always viewed as more credible, by both men and women. I noticed when this was first reported, before the details were revealed and only the comment was made about her ‘doing what she needed to protect herself’, a lot of the responses from the sites reporting it (including i think, this one) were that it was inappropriate that she would allude to violence. An immediate belief in his credibility over hers.
      These are gender based prejudices and are absolutely the result of a systemic sexism. We all fall prey to them (both men and women), because these discriminatory attitudes are ingrained into the constructs of our society.
      We need to start asking ourselves questions – if we automatically disbelieve the abused (for whatever reason we decide upon), why is that really? Its pretty unlikely for someone to make something like this up, especially in a situation like this where it could destroy their career.
      So glad to see that the majority of responses now are supportive of this poor woman.

  13. GingerNYC says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like this is the timeline of events:
    1- JD’s mom dies
    2- JD &and AH have altercation. AH takes pictures.
    3- (last Friday) Amber files papers to request a hearing on the temp restraining order. Included in those papers are these allegations as well as pictures. At this point these papers are not yet public record.
    4- (last weekend) JD offers AH settlement money so as to end any court proceedings.
    5- (Monday) AH files for divorce, requesting spousal support.
    6- JD files response. Requests that no support be granted.
    7- (today) hearing on TRO. judge reviews AH’s papers, finds in favor of AH, and grants TREO. after hearing all papers become part of the public record.

    So what that seems to mean is that he offered her money last weekend if she would stop the hearing process and/or not file divorce papers. And she obviously said no. Now what kind of gold digger is that? She didn’t even give Disney time to figure out how much they would kick in! She would know that she needed more than 2 days to get her best offer out of them.
    It seems far more likely to me that he hit her, she didn’t feel safe and requested the TRO, JD found out about the hearing and tried to buy her off, she turned down his offer of money and instead spent the weekend with her att’y getting papers ready, then she filed for divorce on Monday. THAT scenario makes the most sense to me.
    As to the request for spousal support, two things are important: first, that the atty included the sp spt request as part of the 1st filing because you must request it in those papers or you are barred from ever requesting it. So the atty throws in everything and the kitchen sink so as to avoid being precluded at a later time. That way it doesn’t matter what his strategy is or what happens down the road because you’ve addressed it. Also, it’s good for negotiating purposes. You are giving yourself something to throw out and act like by doing so you are compromising. Second, she may well be anticipating his statements and the resulting backlash and wants to be sure that she gets some money even if she completely loses her career as a result. Either is fair and both are smart moves. Neither is just because she is a gold digger.
    #ImWithAmber

    • ethel mertz says:

      i work in family law and agree with @gingernyc^^^

    • tracking says:

      Great overview, GingerNYC. I didn’t know that about the spousal support request, makes a lot of sense.

    • Goldie says:

      I believe Amber claimed the assault occurred last Saturday, a day after his mother died. So she couldn’t have filed for a restraining order last Friday. My understanding is that she filed for an emergency hearing either today or yesterday.
      FWIW I totally believe she was abused, and don’t think this is about money. Just trying to clarify.

      • GingerNYC says:

        @ Goldie I was just looking for my source on the date of filing but can’t find it. I’ll keep looking… also, she could have this morning ammended the allegations to include last Saturday.

      • GingerNYC says:

        Still no luck with that source, but either way I can’t edit my post at this point. What I will still propose is that if she was simply a gold digger looking for a big payout, she wouldn’t have played her hand so quickly. To stay on theme, she would have upped the ante and run the table!

      • Goldie says:

        @ginger, I just saw a PEOPLE article that claimed she filed for a restraining order on Monday. So it wasn’t last week, but it is true that she filed *before* news of their divorce broke. So your right that it goes against his camp’s claims that she was simply reacting to the negative press.

    • SKF says:

      This all makes me very sad. I can Just see how she is going to be treated by Johnny fans. I don’t have any trouble believing it at all. He’s been violent with random people before, and that’s just what is on the record. He clearly has substance abuse issues. Remember those hotel rooms he trashed when fighting with Kate Moss? That would have to be terrifying, to see your partner in such a rage that they destroy a room. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was violent to her too and it was hushed up. We all know Kate is a sucker for charismatic awful men. Apparently she has talked about his paranoia and jealousy issues before too. Also, weird stories are emerging that when he was with Winona they were the best guess for big blind items about a star who shot his girlfriend and had it hushed up, with her pulling out of a movie for “exhaustion” then becoming addicted to pain killers as a result of her injury. Who knows… What I do know is that Amber has bruises on her face, that she is facing a huge backlash, that she is not acting like a golddigger at all, and that calling out domestic abuse is incredibly brave, let alone when the abuser is a beloved public figure. I feel for her and I believe her. I hope that if any of his exes WERE abused that they find the courage to come out now and support her story. But I won’t blame them if they don’t. In any case, I think it’s important that victims aren’t always loveable, likeable people. Whatever your opinion on her, no one deserves this. I wish her the best. #IStandWithAmber

      • Miss S says:

        From the Guardian interview from 2005:

        “He said that when he used to get in fights, he was ‘a dirty fighter. Oh, yeah. The dirtiest ever. Stop at nothing. Balls, sucker punch, bite the ear, pull the ear, gouge an eye out. I have done damage, and damage has been done to me. I’ve been hit with everything in the world: ashtrays, bottles, a pointy-toed Tony Lama boot to the face.’
        He went on: ‘I still have a hellish temper. It’s diminished a little, but rage is still never very far away.’”

        He has a history and he admits it, but I guess I we kind of forgot about it.

    • aims says:

      I totally agree Ginger and you said it perfectly. I have nothing to add, and I also stand by Amber and any woman who has suffered abuse from their partners. It’s enough!!!!

    • BritAfrica says:

      @ GingerNYC

      Finally! A well thought out sequence of events. Thank you! Shows what he thought of his wife doesn’t it?

      Does he offer to go into rehab? Ofcourse not! He’s a big Hollywood oligarch. So he offers to buy her off because that’s all she’s about….right? The money. I hope she remains strong and wipes the floor with them!

      I was rather indifferent to this woman but now #ImWithAmber too.

    • Green_Eyes says:

      Spot on!

    • EM says:

      The timeline we get as readers is not the entire story. It’s not like you have a legal client in front of you and you can piece together an accurate chronology of events on the basis of what you read online.

  14. Freddy Spaghetti says:

    To think how she was viewed during their marriage and as to what it was really was like–I’m glad she found the will to leave.

  15. THE OG BB says:

    This sounds so much like the relationship I had with my ex boyfriend. He would be fine when sober, but violent, accusatory and paranoid when he was drunk. After quite a few instances of abuse and violent behavior, I finally called the cops (after running outside and hiding in the bushes in front of our apartment building) and he had actually passed out by the time they arrived. I had visible cuts and swelling so he was arrested. You know what his mother, father and some of his friends said? Not- oh how could you abuse your girlfriend. Not- how could you drink so much you would be capable of this. Nope, they said “how could she do that to you?” “if you were passed out, you were obviously not a threat anymore” “you were in your own home and should feel safe” Yup, I was blamed and branded a witch. He was surrounded by enablers. He was finally able to get sober and he realized what he did to me and that it was not my fault, but he is still surrounded by those people. I feel for Amber, she will be questioned and doubted. This can’t be an easy ordeal. Things went from gossipy gold digger jokes to this terrible situation really quick. I’m curious to see what happens with Johnny’s career.

    • GingerNYC says:

      @ OG, congratulations on making him your ex, good job! one of the things i love about nyc is that cops MUST make an arrest on all domestic violence calls. it takes away from them the ability to determine what happens, which is a very good thing!

    • Wren says:

      I’m so sorry that happened to you. One of the reasons people push blame on the victim is denial. They don’t want to believe their child, sibling or friend is capable of such terrible behavior. You see it in the families of accused murderers too. It’s really sad and makes life harder for everyone, but some people just cannot come to terms with the fact that someone they know as kind, sweet and loving can have such a horrible side to them. What would you rather believe, that your son beats his girlfriend or that the girlfriend somehow goaded him into doing it then “punished” him by calling the cops?

      I know that doesn’t make it better, but I find understanding why people hurt me helps me move past it.

    • isabelle says:

      I read an excellent book called “Why does He Do that”, can’t remember the authors name? An counselor that details some of the abusive clients he had in their practice. Your story sounds like many in the book. Abusers often get away with their abuse for many years, sometimes forever and no one ever suspects it. Especially those close to them. Its an excellent read and would recommend it to anyone that’s been in an abusive relationship or to help women see warning signs of an abuser before they begin a relationship. Glad you got out and away from the relationship, many women never get out.

    • Dlo says:

      No more pirates movies for me #IstandwithAmber

    • Emily says:

      I’m glad you made it out of that relationship. I imagine it was hard for his family to believe he was capable of those things, but to put the blame on you and say those things…it’s unbelievable.

      But this did make me think that the stories about how Depp’s family hated her are probably true. Here’s a whole group of people who probably rely on, and have relied on for a looooong time, Johnny, his career and his ability to make money. And here’s this new young thing threatening to ruin it. Of course they’re not going to blame him.

      Again, I’m so glad you were strong enough to get yourself out, despite all of his enablers.

  16. JTG says:

    Where are all the people who were calling her a gold digger on earlier posts? Are you ready to take that back? #ImWithAmber

    • lola says:

      You can both be a golddigger and an abuse victim.

      Yet I never believed she was a golddigger. I think she was merely a young woman who married her moviestar crush. A rare opportunity that millions of women would kill to have.

      If she was an opportunistic golddigger, then why did she not negotiate a massive payment from Disney for the silence she was to keep? Alice 2 is coming out this weekend.

      • GingerNYC says:

        @ lola, YES! Just like you can be both a prostitute and a rape victim. Not mutually exclusive. In fact, maybe more likely with both because of the pathology behind their respective methods of enrichment.

      • bettyrose says:

        I want to be clear that I never called her a gold digger. But prior to the abuse allegations, I did side eye her request for spousal support given that she had not made any financial sacrifices in her marriage. .

        However, as explained by a poster above, she only had one legal opportunity to make the request, and given that with this new information it’s possible that this could draw out into a lengthy and expensive court proceeding, I now agree with her decision to make the request given the enormous disparity between their financial means.

      • Emily says:

        I know this is sort of a tangent, but those people in the earlier articles really ticked me off because…who cares if she WAS a gold digger? If Johnny Depp didn’t realize that a young, beautiful, model/actress was marrying him for reasons other than just PURE LOVE (I’m not saying that it’s not possible they loved each other, but it was one of many reasons), he deserves to have his gold dug. Marriages take place for millions of reasons and that’s one of them (even among us lowly poors) – financial stability. Let’s not pretend their marriage wasn’t an arrangement on both sides. Do people feel like Johhny Depp was duped into marrying her? Is their argument that “oh, he probably paid for that phone, so he can throw it at her face?” It makes no sense.

    • Susan says:

      Yeah, I’m not seeing the relevance at all between the two. One has to do with money, the other with abuse. She could be an abuse victim and still be a golddigger too. In fact, if she was more of a gold digger, she could have withheld all this information on the abuse to try and wrangle a big settlement out of Johnny. She has given up all financial leverage by going public with it now.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Oh please, the two are not mutually exclusive. Just because she’s a victim, and has our sympathy now is no reason to pant her as some kind of perfect person. She married a man she knew had substance abuse problems because she wanted to boost her own fame. That’s obvious. I feel sorry for what she went through and think he’s a total dirtbag, and there is no excuse for what he did, but your question is just silly.

    • Luca76 says:

      I still don’t think she’s a great person but no one deserves to be abused. This reminds me somewhat of Mel Gibson and Oksana. Raging addict with anger issues runs into someone who isn’t afraid to go public. I think its possible his exes just never wanted to expose him and he’s always had that problem. God only knows. It’s sad.o

      • noway says:

        Okay I think Oksana was definitely worse, but it still didn’t give him a right to abuse her. A persons persona doesn’t justify beating the crap out of them in any way. I think it is possible that he has recently become more addicted to something. I think after River Pheonix died he may have stopped and mid life happened and he went back. Doesn’t excuse his actions or punishment, but even in the above statement does sound like a reason.

    • JaneS says:

      Nope, not walking anything back. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

  17. Wren says:

    And now we know why nobody else wanted to marry him, despite his asking.

    How horrible and sad. I still don’t like her but nobody deserves this and I hope she’s safe. I also hope she doesn’t have to pay for coming out with this and that he won’t just be able to go to rehab and get everything glossed over.

    I imagine it was all fun and games in the beginning, they’d drink and do drugs together and it was amazing. Maybe she didn’t really see that side of him, or at least comprehend how bad it was, until they were married. It’s an old story. I fervently hope he doesn’t get away with this.

    • JenYfromTheBlok says:

      Now we know why she put off a “personality-less” vibe. I have been there. When trapped in domestic violence (imbalance of power-finanical etc) there is no energy for anyone or anything else. It’s a walking/functioning depression.

      • meh says:

        This is a good point. I also have more sympathy about the thing with the dogs now, knowing she wanted the restraining order extended to them. I always thought she seemed entitled for behaving like she was above the law, but maybe those dogs are a major source of emotional comfort within their home and she just couldn’t bear to be with Johnny without them.

      • Vernie says:

        @JenY: Well said. Abuse sucks you dry. I hope you are in a much better, healthier place these days.

  18. minx says:

    I find this all believable, and horrible.

  19. turtle says:

    Having lived with a charismatic alcoholic that I loved very very very much it seems to me like Amber linked up with a dude that maybe she loved a lot and was charmed by and thought she could change but instead he could way worse because he could go off the rails in a way he felt like he couldn’t with Vanessa (this happened with my charming ex after I finally left – he met someone who he felt “let” him be hisself and he went even darker with his drinking).

    She sounds like a person who was in love and stayed in a toxic relationship longer than she should have.

    Its making more sense now. His appearance, their marriage, its alllll making a lot more sense now to be honest and I do believe that he is an abusive ragey alcoholic/drug abuser.

    He needs rehab and she needs therapy because she probably has PTSD.

    I’m glad she’s out but she needs to stay out of toxic relationships. Bet this is the last time she links up with an alcoholic. It only takes one good time to learn you can’t change them.

    • bettyrose says:

      This is one of the many reasons I’m uncomfortable with relationships involving such a huge power imbalance. Age wise, he could easily be her father, but with his wealth and his power in the industry she sought to be successful in, what power did she have other than being the object of his obsessive lust, which tends to be fleeting? But she had the power to leave, and I admire her for that.

  20. THE OG BB says:

    Depp’s attorney responded:

    “Amber is attempting to secure a premature financial resolution by alleging abuse.”

    “Her current application for a temporary restraining order along with her financial requests appears to be in response to the negative media attention she received earlier this week after filing for divorce,” Wasser wrote. “Yet Johnny cannot protect himself or Amber from media scrutiny, and Amber’s anger certainly cannot drive this dissolution proceeding.”

    • lola says:

      Well, Johnny also could not protect her from the aftermath of his morbid and interminable alcoholism from the looks of it. Isn’t that ironic? The girl needs to protect herself, and that’s what she is trying to do here.

    • Sam says:

      I give Depp’s attorney an E for effort.

      GingerNYC’s timeline and analysis in the comments above explain exactly why Amber’s actions were not a cash grab.

    • JenYfromTheBlok says:

      Yuck. Imagine being an attorney who represents an abuser. My abusive x has an attorney who looks like a Dark Sith Lord. Her skin is grey, her eyes are dead. That’s one soul sucking vocation.

    • qwerty says:

      I rememberhe smeared Vanessa at the end too. He was obviously drinking and left her for a newer model but sources… said it was all because Vanessa wouldn’t let him chill and be the cool Johnny everyone loves, always on his case.

    • CornyBlue says:

      God imagine taking money from an abuser to protect him. I would literally cut my own hand off.

    • EM says:

      HIs lawyer can only do what he can as a professional, following his client’s instructions.
      If his client was intelligent at all, he would have drawn up a prenuptial agreement or not marry in the first place. But he was and is an insecure man who left his previous partner for a younger version. It’s hard to sympathise with him.

    • imqrious2 says:

      Didn’t it come out that Amber *tried* to keep this out of the court, wanted to settle, but he refused? How is Amber “forcing the issue”?

  21. Heather says:

    I believe her too. Too many details and too many witnesses. Poor thing. I’m thankful for my husband and my normal life.

  22. Yolie C says:

    This makes my stomach turn. I believe everything she says and I hope she stays safe. I’m really sick of people thinking they can get away with anything just because they’re famous.

  23. Meh says:

    The pictures of her breaking down in the car are painful to see. I don’t know how anyone could think she’s making it up after those.

  24. Talie says:

    I 100% believe her…and I also believe she was not the only one of his famous ladies to get the hand. Good for her for not staying silent on this!

  25. Timbuktu says:

    What I don’t understand is how we, women who never met Johnny, could tell he had substance abuse issues that went beyond occasionally having too much to drink, but she couldn’t?
    I know this is going to sound like victim blaming, and I am really trying not to do that, but it’s one thing when you marry young and for the first time, and it’s quite another to marry someone who’s so much older, who has a dark history, and whose substance abuse is not much of a secret.
    I can see how one can fall in love with such a person, perhaps, if they met at a high point, when Johnny was holding it together for a movie, or because he was falling in love with Amber, etc. But I just don’t see how one can MARRY such a person unless they have other motives. Especially someone as beautiful and successful as Amber: she may not be a super-star by Hollywood standards, but she was probably well-off, she was already in movies, etc. I mean, I struggle to believe that she was so in love with Johnny, she threw caution to the wind and that’s all there’s to it.

    • GingerNYC says:

      Basically, it’s because you are in love with the person and you believe them when they say they will change. You also believe them when they say that they’ve never felt this way before, that they never committed to the others b/c they weren’t the right person but you are, that they just slipped this one time but they never will again, that if you ever really loved them you would stay and help them through the relapse, that they haven’t been able to think of anyone but you since you left and aren’t eating or sleeping and probably will seriously die if you don’t come back, etc etc etc. And he convinces people of bullshit for a living, let’s not forget that. His literal job is to get people to believe stuff that’s not true.

      • GingerNYC says:

        Also, we all want to believe we are special so it plays into that as well. Even more so with movie stars because they depend on the fact that they are special to make a living, and they get rejected professionally all the time.

    • Timbuktu says:

      I suppose you’re right. I must have gotten seriously lucky, because I’m not a particularly secure and confident person, so I’m under absolutely no illusion that “I’d never” or anything like that, but my bfs were all decent guys.
      I *want* to believe that if I were her, I’d stay with him to “help”, “change him”, etc., but wouldn’t get married until I saw the actual change.

      • GingerNYC says:

        The emotional abuse can even make the victim more likely to marry her abuse, believe it or not. The same emotional cycle, use of manipulation, feelings of guilt or inadequacy , etc that keep them in the relationship are used by the abuser to kind of bully their victim into marrying them. It’s about control, and marriage means more control.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I agree with you, Timbuktu. I don’t blame her for his behavior, but the guy could barely stand up. She had to have known he had a problem that was too serious to even consider marrying him. People see things in black and white – he’s a dirt all, so she’s perfect. It doesn’t work that way.

      • CornyBlue says:

        I doubt she knowingly walked into an abusive situation. Not saying she did ot marry him for his money or connections or whatever but she must have not known how far down the hole he was

      • SloaneY says:

        Except that in the court papers , she states that he’s been verbally and physically abusive through the entirety of their relationship.

      • Keaton says:

        Yep I agree with you Timbuktu and GoodNamesAllTaken.
        I don’t necessarily buy she just loved him too much and that blinded her to his substance abuse. It’s like someone said above: A person can be a gold-digger and an abuse victim. They are not mutually exclusive. Maybe she had no idea how bad he could get when she married him but I think she knew he was a serious alcohol and drug abuser. That’s probably why she was hesitant to marry the guy in the first place. That doesn’t mean she deserves the hell he’s put her through though. Noone deserves that garbage. And even if she married him for less thann stellar reasons I have no pity for him.

    • Die Zicke says:

      As a 21 year old, I think her age probably has something to do with it. No she wasn’t super young, but she was still pretty young when they got together.

    • Merritt says:

      For the same reason people often don’t see it in their relatives at first. Because you don’t want to believe that people you care about have a drinking problem. It is easier to pretend that everything is fine even when everything is terrible. Until something that is so terrible happens that you can’t pretend any longer.

      • Timbuktu says:

        @Merritt
        but that’s your relatives! It’s people you grew up with, who raised you or were always a part of your life. Very often you don’t even realize that there’s something wrong with them until you get some distance!
        It’s different when you just meet a person, IMO. I had many MANY crushes on cute boys that withered away very quickly because boys were dumb/rude/drunk, etc. And I also think that the higher the pedestal, the harder the fall, too.
        I actually have no problems seeing how it’s hard to DIVORCE someone who became a drunk, even if he was heading that way since the beginning, but, say, he took 10 years to go from enjoying happy hour too much to becoming a violent drunk. By that time, you could be too attached, you could have kids, a house, etc. You may have quit your job to be with your children, etc.
        But I still do see a problem with marrying someone who has had that problem since before you met. Wren might be onto something here…

    • Wren says:

      She probably used right along with him and it was really fun. For awhile. Admitting he had issues would be to admit she had issues too, and people resist that like crazy.

      There’s a Ron White joke where he says his wife tells him he smokes too much pot, and his response is, “Oh, and I suppose you smoke the correct amount of pot?”

      I bet their relationship was like that. She felt like she couldn’t say anything because she did it too, or if she did he threw it in her teeth. Maybe she believed him when he told her she was special and different (because you know he did). With abusers, there are good times, and they’re so good you question whether you’re making a big deal out of nothing. Or you are caught up in the cycle of abuse and make up, abuse and make up. It’s intoxicating in its own way, and JD is probably a master. He’s an actor after all, and a good one.

      • Dlo says:

        @wten, all of this! I lived this, it is a horrible cycle that eats your soul very slowly. 😞

      • Wilma says:

        actually, I have been part of an intervention where our friend smoked way too much weed in a group of friends where most people smoked weed. Because lots of our friends did it, it took some time to see that he wasn’t just smoking in the ‘fun’ way, but got paranoid and itchy, needed to check if there was enough weed as soon as he arrived somewhere and could not get through the day without smoking. He blended in and it took us all some time to see what was actually going on.

      • Kitten says:

        This is my theory as well, Wren.

        I’m so bummed about this. Johnny was never one of my faves but I really believed he was a genuinely good dude–a guy with a lot of demons, but not a harmful person. Speaking of faves, I don’t know if I have any left at this point. Sigh.

        I think Kaiser might have prayed a bit too hard to the gossip gods because this is more than I wanted.

        I hope Amber is safe and surrounded by love and support.

      • Keaton says:

        This is a very good theory

  26. lola says:

    I rather believe in the alleged victim and be proven wrong, than believe in the alleged perp and be proven right.

    • Rhiley says:

      Exactly, and the more that comes out, the more I believe her. I wonder if Johnny’s next move will be rehab.

      • Miss S says:

        He looked wasted and high tonight at his concert with his covers band. He said something at the mic but no one could tell what. Perry didn’t look that well either and trashed a guitar because you know “people in rock & roll are such badasses”… I wonder how these guys are a good influence for him.

    • Kitten says:

      Definitely. I would never NOT believe a victim.

  27. what's inside says:

    As I said before, he admitted himself that he treated Kate Moss badly. He has been engaged multiple times, married twice and no woman stays with him. He has demons and who knows what goes on out of the public eye. However, it also must be said that she knew exactly who he was when she married him and that speaks volumes also.

  28. isabelle says:

    When I was in my early 20s late teens dated older successful men. As much as 15+ years. While they weren’t abusive they were often demanding of many things. Time, an agreeable nature and often leading you on a path of wanting what they wanted for you. They slowly, maybe unknowingly, take away many of your decisions. They almost feel entitled of your worship of them. Doesn’t make them bad or abusive and honestly think they may not know they’re doing it. It’s always suspect to me when there is a big age difference because he is trying to find someone that makes him feel younger and desired. Its for his ego. Older attractive men with wealth can be so charming you don’t see the signs or vast difference in age until much much later in the relationship. Then when you add on addiction and prior rage incidents, which he a record of doing multiple times, I believe her. She is going to get trashed by the media because he probably has a stellar PR team.

    • Miss S says:

      Some people are very good at using their power and charm to bend others. Even the most “strong & independent” women can fall for it and then it becomes a cycle where they doubt what’s happening and feel embarrassed and guilty for letting that happen. “How could you let him say or do that?” This destroys them on the inside. That’s why these matters are so dificult, it’s much more than cold hard facts.

      • GingerNYC says:

        I often think it’s even harder for the strong & independent women because they are used to succeeding and looking like a “winner”. So to admit not just failure but abuse requires all the same strengths, but with a large dose of humility added.

      • Miss S says:

        @GingerNYC, Exactly, you explained it better than me. Because these women are seen as anything but submissive, being in a situation like this is confusing, messes with their self esteem and makes them feel truly embarrassed because “they should’ve known better”, “they should have left at the first sign”… Having to admit that they are victims of something is really difficult:/

      • India Andrews says:

        I agree. You can have a lot of red flags thrown at your feet and step right over them unaware until much later.

        Hindsight is 20/20.

        A lot of strong women have been there. Myself included. Much to my embarassment.

        I face palmed myself many, many times after the rose colored glasses fell off of my face.

  29. Miss S says:

    I read the document. Things that stood out for me:

    1. There are 4 witnesses who were there in different points: two friends who lived next door, the friend on the phone and one security guard who works for Depp who asked him to stop.
    2. She didn’t take the pictures, her friend and neighbor did.
    3. His lawyer was warned beforehand to avoid doing all this in public and Amber justifies not pressing charges immediately because Depp had his film opening.
    4. She claims he did not support her financially despite being wealthy.

    Also his name is really “John Christopher Depp II”, so Amber wasn’t making a joke out of him in the docs like it was suggested.

    And for last I leave here parts of an interview he did for the guardian in 2005 when nominated for the Oscars:
    “He got into brawls. Sometimes he was vaguely suicidal. Sometimes he cut his arm with a knife. (…) He wasn’t having much fun. The same imagination that served him so well in the movies messed up his personal life. He was jealous beyond words. ‘Oh boy. Oh fuck. I was a professional at it. Oh, the scenarios I dreamed up. Oh fuck. Oh. I mean, world-class. I was. I could see ink pens on the desk, and hairbrushes, and oh, fuck…’
    He drank more – bourbon, neat – and became more volatile and began to decay. In September 1994, he reportedly got into a pretty loud fight with then-girlfriend Kate Moss in the $1,200-a-night Presidential Suite at New York’s Mark Hotel, which led next-door guest Roger Daltrey, of all people, to complain to the management, which led to Depp’s forced eviction, a few hours in the pokey, much lurid press and, in the aftermath, vastly increased bookings for the Mark. Depp later claimed he was simply out to squash a cockroach: ‘I was trying to catch this bug, and a couple of articles of furniture just happened to get in the way.’”

    Everyone can form their own opinion, but I thought these elements were important to avoid speculation on some areas of this story.

    • Celebitchy says:

      Can you please comment with a link to the full document? I searched for it and couldn’t find it.

    • Timbuktu says:

      I almost wonder if their own fames screws them on that one. When a poor dude does that, he’s stupid trailer park trash, you know? Drinking, drugs, divorces, kids with 3 different women, the works. No one wants to here it, he’s a screw-up, a loser, a bad father, etc., etc., etc.
      But when an famous wealthy actor does it, he’s “fighting demons”, he’s “deep”, etc.
      I wonder if they buy into it themselves, ultimately, and think that their drinking or drug abuse makes them interesting or unique, rather than weak and self-indulgent. And they have fewer excuses: unlike poor people, they can afford rehab, they can afford to take a year off to clean up their act, they can seek healthier thrills outside the bottle…

      • Miss S says:

        I don’t have any doubts that many famous people are given a pass because they are famous, because they are pretty, because they play nice characters, because you liked their movies… And it’s difficult to accept that someone you admire is a shitty person, with demons or not. People around them tend to be enablers, “yes” peple. From this doc, Amber and her friend say his security guard just said “Boss, stop”, he didn’t go there and removed Depp from the room while he was being aggressive to Amber. Now imagine how many people around Depp receive paychecks from him and don’t want to create problems, make a scene… They are allowed to cross the line more often than anybody else and be excused for that, it’s like there’s this halo of specialness that becomes a bubble of protection.

    • mary simon says:

      Holy Shit! Just read the filing. There is no way Johnny can deny this incident! There are 4 witnesses – her neighbors, a couple, who sound wonderful, particularly the woman, who actually shielded Amber from Depp with her own body, and took Amber in to her own apartment to protect her from Johnny. This awesome neighbor has filed an affidavit stating she is willing to testify in court as to Johnny’s threats, charging at Amber, hitting the woman’s hands away from protecting Amber, swinging around a magnum of wine and smashing things with it -the whole thing sounds terrifying.

      The mutual friend of Johnny and Amber who was on the phone heard the whole thing and could be heard on speaker phone yelling at Amber to get the hell out of the apartment. Johnny’s own security people came in, and refused to stop him, even as Amber pleaded with them.

      This is high drama and there are at least 4 witnesses. The angel neighbor attested to Amber’s wound being red and swollen, and she, the neighbor, is the one who took the pictures of Amber.

      I don’t know how Johnny and team think they can even begin to play this thing down – there are 4 witnesses! How do you discredit four witnesses?

  30. Susan says:

    Is this really surprising? Wasn’t Johnny Depp trashing hotel rooms around the time he was dating Kate Moss? Going berserk and violent against possessions shows a short, violent fuse and I am not surprised if a person who does that is also violent with other people. When you add in drugs and alcohol, I’m even less surprised.

  31. lisa2 says:

    I saw that #Istandwithamber is trending.

    This is just so unexpected. I think Johnny Depp has been perceived in such a way that no one every said anything bad about him. Even when you look at his past. He has been fortunate that his past was never brought up every time he stepped out. And sadly I recall when he and Vanessa broke up many people were quick to attack Vanessa. Calling her names. Accusing her of what they accused Amber of. Being with him for money and fame. That Vanessa tricked him. Well if all of this is real maybe Vanessa was the one to finally walk away. I’m sad for his children. They are old enough to know and understand what is going on.
    Reading the reply from his lawyer this will be a She Said.. He Said

    • Miss S says:

      Read the guardian link posted above, he even recognizes having a bad temper. After reading all that it’s obvious that Paradis was the one holding down the fort, calming him. That interview does show a lot of the things we kind of forgot, some shared by the man himslef.

    • YesIsaidit says:

      His Pr team helped a lot. I remember they attacked her hard through the tabloids. Made her seem like the bad guy. 🤔

  32. HeyThere! says:

    I said from the get go she wasn’t a gold digger and that it reminded me of my precious relationship…….unfortunately I was very correct. :( Never knowing what’s going to set off an addict is such a horrible way to live. Sometimes they have a happy high, other times a bad high. You just live in fear 24/7. Here’s to hoping she is safe now and can get past this.

  33. InvaderTak says:

    Dear lord. She has all of sympathy now.

  34. Ali says:

    I believe Amber and I’m sad for her. I’m a fan of Johnny Depp’s work, think he’s very talented, but he is messed up, big time. I hope he gets help, so his kids can one day be proud of him.

  35. khaveman says:

    Wow, afraid of Johnny but never leaving? I wonder about that. “During the entirety of our relationship, Johnny has been verbally and physically abusive to me.” And yet married him. And stayed with him. I always wonder about that. This isn’t 1955. There are choices now. She’s as much of a piece of work as he is.

    • Die Zicke says:

      Statistically, the most dangerous period for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tries to leave it. Also, I know women who’ve stayed because “it’s not him, it’s just the alcohol/drugs/all the stress he’s under.” We make excuses for people we love.

    • isabelle says:

      He may be guilty or not. She may be making it up…or she is completely telling the truth and didn’t leave….but here is the thing about you statement, victim blaming of any sort is shameful, stop blaming the victim. Siding with an abuser is wrong, plain and simple.

    • Veronica says:

      You seriously need to educate yourself on how domestic abuse works because this statement is grossly ignorant and deeply offensive to anyone who has actually survived it.

    • Colette says:

      OK ,Caveman

    • Samtha says:

      Your name seems strangely appropriate.

    • Tonka says:

      Ugh. This shows a complete lack of understanding of human psychology and the abuser-abused relationship. Science does not share your uneducated opinion.

  36. HeyThere! says:

    And to add, my x was an addict and a millionaire. I found out he stole perscription drugs from all my family and friends houses I would take him to, he stole from his family, and ordered perscription drugs online from over seas. It was crazy how easy he would find pills. Then he would mix them together and with vodka. He was a monster. I never knew why he was mixing or how many he took. I just know that the almost 14 month relationship was the worst experience of my life. I can’t think about it for too long or the anxiety and fear creeps back in. I’m happily married to my high school sweetheart now. Nobody knows what I went through. I lost life long friends over it. I couldn’t tell them why I was acting like I was. I couldn’t tel them I missed their baby shower because the hell I would have had to endure by going would last weeks. He was beyond controlling of my every move, every dollar, tracked my texts and car. The only person who’s knows what I experienced is my husband. It was such a short time in my life but really defined it. Let me know I’m strong, and deserve a stable home and stable love. No, he wasn’t punching me in the face but that’s not the only form of abuse. I lived in 24/7 fear of what might come. Anyone reading this in my old situation, you can get out. You deserve better and it’s not your fault.

    • siri says:

      Thank you!! Situations like that require an enormous amount of courage, and self-love. I’m truly glad you found that in you! You deserve the best!!

      • HeyThere! says:

        *tear* thank you for that! There that’s tear is a happy one. The thought of what my life might have been terrifies me. He married a shortly after we broke up and she had small children. I still pray for them every night that my x isn’t pill popping and drinking still. I can’t imagine being a child in that situation.

  37. YesIsaidit says:

    The hell he must’ve put Vanessa paradis through – she looks so much healthier these days. Good for her for getting out of that mess. poor Amber!

  38. Sabs says:

    Wow! These are the most civilized comments I’ve ever read on a blog. Kudos to all of you.

    As for this situation, I don’t think Amber is lying. She has way too much to lose if she did that. Her career would be over. As for Johnny Depp, he has always creeped me out. I never saw in him what it was everyone goes gaga about. He seems like an alcoholic and/or drug addict to me. Not stable at all.

    I’d love to hear what Vanessa Paradis has to say about this. Typically, there are cyclical patterns of abuse. He is the father of her childre so I feel like her coming to his defence or staying completely silent will speak volumes.

    • Miss S says:

      Vanessa seems to be too classy to say anything at all. But she must’ve been really patient with him.
      From the Guardian article:
      “His imagination can still get the better of him, but these days it mainly revolves around his kids, whenever one of them sneezes and the what-ifs begin to suggest dire consequences. ‘There’s been many times when I’ve teetered on the brink of absolute madness,’ he said, ‘and unfortunately, once I go, I go, so I count on Vanessa to talk me down. And it does take some serious fucking reeling in to bring me back to three-dimensional reality. But it’s not anywhere near as disturbing as it used to be. With age, you do mellow in certain areas. And it’s fucking happiness.’ “

  39. Sarah01 says:

    I hope all the haters that were piling on her and calling her cold hearted realize that you should try to see all the facts or at least both sides before trashing someone. She is a domestic violence victim I hope she can recover and never be in this situation again.

  40. Audrey says:

    I feel terrible for her. I believe her but most comments on other sites are saying that she is lying for money. It’s disgusting how people are defending him.

  41. There sad fact is she didn’t press charges.

    So what is her end game? Ruin him? Money?

    You would think she would just want to be free of him.

    • meh says:

      It didn’t happen that long ago, and the police told her she could press charges at a later date. It could also be that there is no end game other than leaving an abusive relationship safely. She didn’t file for a restraining order to get attention, she did it to protect her physical person.

    • Susan says:

      How about her end game is to divorce him and feel safe?

    • Colette says:

      Filing for divorce is getting free of him

  42. Sarah says:

    I always think to myself that I’d leave as soon as someone became physically violent but the thing about this behaviour is it escalates. If your partner one day pushed you but apologised right away, I’d think ohh I’m overreacting! It was an accident! It’d be crazy to throw everything away for one little push and it didn’t even hurt…
    And then it goes on from there…..
    Could happen to anyone.

    Poor woman. I hope she can feel safe again one day

  43. A says:

    All I have to say about any abuser is this: a dog that attacks a person is inmediately put down.
    Why are some people still questioning the victim’s word in all this? Is it because JD is so rich and handsome?
    The devil can take many shapes my friends.
    For whatever is worth, I can’t stand Amber. But NO WOMAN deserves to be beaten or no human being for that matter.

  44. hmmm says:

    Aw, hell, I believe her.

    • lucy2 says:

      That was just my thought too.

      I really didn’t see this coming. Clearly he’s got some substance issues going on, but I didn’t expect all this, or to change my mind about her so quickly. I was dismissive of her when the divorce story broke, but now I think we’re seeing the truth. I believe her, and I’m glad she was able to leave before anything worse happened. He needs help, and she needs safety.

  45. OTHER RENEE says:

    I feel for her. Everyone jumped to conclusions and was quick to label her as cold etc without knowing the facts. Proves you never know what goes on between two people behind closed doors.

    My husband was abused by his ex wife. She went into rages and kicked him on his legs leaving bruises that would not be visible while he wore pants. He stayed because she threatened to take his kid from him. Eventually she got arrested (there was plenty of evidence) and he got custody. When I think of my kind, gentle husband being a victim of abuse, I get so angry. So, yes, it can happen to men too.

  46. CornyBlue says:

    The more details that come out the more I feel like shit about saying bad things about Amber getting Aquaman. I am glad she has that now.
    I hope she finishes him. And yes I know people will forget in a few months but for now I hope none of his credibility remains.

  47. Jeanette says:

    God this is just tragic..

    I’m having a hard time with the police stating that they did not find any evidence. What about the smashed belongings? Her friend promptly took her to her house and took the one picture with a clear outline of a phone on her face-why couldn’t someone trained in law enforcement spot the mess on her face? Surely it was red right after, it had to be judging from the photos!! And the bodyguards on JD’s payroll, what kind of “man” stands there and watches it happen?

    Just so many questions here on why this was not documented better than it is. Were those Lindsay Lohan’s cops?

    • Tourmaline says:

      At this point I think all there is out there is a TMZ “police source” not official police records or statements.
      But taking it as true that police saw no “evidence” as others have suggested Amber might have been crying or avoidant of police when they responded which could have resulted in a lack of observations made.

    • Samtha says:

      Amber might have been at her friend’s apartment when she spoke to the police. They wouldn’t have noticed any damage to the property, because they weren’t in the location where it occurred.

  48. Pensive says:

    I think this woman is brave for coming forward. In our culture, women who stand up to abuse are automatically subject to bullying and cries of manipulation and lying. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that Johnny Depp has many demons. Whether or not Amber Heard initially married him for his money is another matter entirely. It’s also irrelevant to this situation and I absolutely believe her story and feel sorry that she has gone through this. Let’s face it, calling out abuse (especially when the alleged abuser is world famous) is not easy to do and surely Amber would know better than to make false accusations. My heart goes out to her and I hope something good comes out of this mess. #IstandwithAmber

  49. LAK says:

    Poor Amber.

  50. Mew says:

    I take back what I said about the divorce filing from her being a really cold move and I feel sorry I judged her so quickly without knowing what’s up. Teached me a lesson indeed that I take to my heart: we can never know. Good for her to get out of abusive relationship. I don’t care if she’s “dumb”, interested in hollywood glitz or just a gold digger, abuse is never acceptable. She’s brave for getting out and coming public.

    • Miss S says:

      You are a good example of how good gossip can be. If people aren’t trolling we can actually have discussions and learn about society and ourselves. I learned a lot about feminism and noticed my own prejudice about so many things around here.

  51. als says:

    Maybe I’m using big words here but it looks like Wasser and Depp’s team screwed up. Either that or she is in a shitty situation, but again, I don’t get what she’s doing except for perpetuating abuse of power even more.
    If she knew the real story between Depp and Amber how did she allow that dismissive Depp divorce statement? Knowing that Amber was abused, that statement spit in the face of a DV victim.
    How did anyone in Depp’s team think it was wise to anger and humiliate even more a victim of abuse? That’s some arrogant, dirty play right there. It looks like Wasser and Robin Baum, his megapowerful publicist, decided to play hardball with Amber. Probably they did it thinking that Hollywood’s shitty system will stand behind them and will bury Amber.
    The spousal support request was rejected too which is further evidence they believe Amber will be crushed and they don’t need to throw money at her. And they will keep going with this.
    So the abuse is not over. When Depp finished asserting his superiority in front of Amber through verbal and physical abuse, as evidenced in photos and declarations from witnesses, he then went crying to his staff and they are now trying to send messages that they have the real power and they will crush her with it.
    I hope Amber tears Depp a new one. And I hope the ‘geniuses’ that are behind Depp’s PR and legal strategy get teared a new one as well. The world has changed, powerful people are held accountable all over. Depp and his team of morons are not getting out of this one.
    Ever since this became public, Depp has not sent one word or message to show moderation and willingness to deal with his wife, still his wife, in a civilized manner. From the start, he has been aggressive and dismissive in his statement. All the while knowing what the story really was. He probably has great faith that he’ll destroy her.
    Shameful!

    • Kitten says:

      Yes these are all the things I’ve been wondering as well. Maybe they were so backed into a corner that their only course of action was a pre-emotive strike? Still this seems so poorly played for a seasoned pro like Wassler.

    • Sam says:

      I agree that the aggressive attacks on Amber by Team Depp are a mistake. Forget the DV allegations, Amber is alleging that Johnny abuses drugs and alcohol. If Depp is a substance abuser, then his handlers know that can’t be covered up forever.

      As for the request for spousal support, that was only denied in the ex parte hearing, which is a hearing where only one side presents evidence. The judge may order spousal support in a full hearing later after both sides have submitted financial information. Amber isn’t a housewife who lacks access to funds or credit, so that’s why the judge didn’t order emergency spousal support.

    • Izzy says:

      I agree, it was a crap move by Wasser. And when the depositions of witnesses start, it may come back to haunt.

    • Bey says:

      i was thinking that maybe they thought Amber wanted to deal with this privatetly, some stories sounded like that and they maybe even provoked her into standing up for herself with all the negative stories and statements. if thats the case attacking her backfired tremendously.

      Wasser looks bad but as a lawyer you obviously can only trust what your client says. you either turn them down because you doubt it and dont want to present a possible abuser or you go with their word. (or in the case when it comes to a trail you know they are guilty but try to get a small as possible sentence but this doesnt apply here) she could have very well been very surprised when she saw the pictures of Amber.

  52. NL says:

    See, I told you she wasn’t awful for waiting until after his mother died.

  53. Atpeace says:

    Unsurprisingly but still shockingly, the DM commenters are on Team Depp. One of the top comments is ‘never trust a bisexual woman, they are disloyal and untrustworthy’. WTF is happening???!

    • Miss S says:

      The only places where people are being civilized is here (for the most part) and Pajiba. Even peple who are giving Depp the benefit of the doubt (it was before the doc came out) aren’t being offensive to Amber.

  54. Drew says:

    This is horrible. Depp sounds like a severely deranged, emotionally unstable, and dangerously volatile person. I really hope this kills his ‘deep’ ‘charming’ exterior image he has. I believe her. She has four witnesses, sounds like she has a recording of some of the abuse, and photographic evidence. She seemed really traumatized in some pictures I saw of her getting into a car.

    Apparently that’s not ‘enough’ for some. The comments on every forum, article, facebook thread that I read are an absolute cesspit. The internet truly is an anti-woman space.

  55. serena says:

    Damn, I don’t know what to think anymore. This is turning really ugly really quickly :(

  56. Tulip says:

    I don’t like her but now I can’t but feel for her. I hope the truth will come out, and I hope she’ll stay safe.
    I’m married to a sociopathic asshole. He’s constantly belittling me, humiliating and degrading me, sometimes he gets scarily threatening.
    We have a 7-year-old son, who is my life, and I want to get out of this. I’ve been secretly recording his exploits. I was afraid no one would believe me, if I didn’t. I’m afraid of his willing to get back at me hard, when I leave him, that’s why I’m finally seeking help from the outside (women center, legals, family and friends). I stayed with him for 10 years, I’m 33. I’m terribly afraid and I spend my nights crying. I really want to get out of this, and I really want to put myself and my son in such a position that he won’t be able to hurt us again. The last thing I recorded was from yesterday afternoon. I set up the voice recorder for no particular reason, I just felt in the air something was about to happen, and it did. He got angry at our son and crashed his bedroom door. He screamed at him that he’s disgusting. I went there immediately and took the blame so he’d scream at me, not him. The recording ends with him saying to me “Beware, or I’ll break all your bones.” My son was shaking and so was I. About half an hour later, he was all “oh, my lovely boy, I love you” to my son. He’s crazy and I’m afraid of him. Unfortunately, here in Italy it is very difficult to do something decisive until it’s too late.

    I stand with Amber. I have no problem believing her.

  57. Spike says:

    I hope I’m not repeating an earlier post. I respect the police. However the finding that there was no evidence of a crime made me immediately think of OJ & Nicole Simpson. OJ was given a pass time & time again because of his status. Amber did the right thing.

    I’m done with Depp.

    • imqrious2 says:

      OMG!! You are SO RIGHT!!!

      I can only hope that she is victorious and that douchebag is made to pay criminally (though sadly, I’m sure he’ll get a slap on the wrist, say he’ll go to rehab, and do the “apology tour”).

  58. Punkypuss says:

    I do feel sorry for Amber in this but everyone needs to remember there are two sides to every coin and we should respect them both give them both privacy and not judge without facts remember photos can be photoshopped and texts can be faked if the abuse is true I hope he gets what he deserves and Amber isn’t judged harshly by her peers but if it’s false well you never know. I’m well aware I’ll get a lot of flak for this and I have nothing but sympathy for domestic violence victims. In saying the whole two sides of a coin thing I had a friend who use to beat her husband black and blue and he only hit back once when he was in danger of his life and yet he was judged far harsher than her. So reserve judgement till all facts are out but still respect their privacy they are human

  59. Tessa says:

    In the court room of my head, the jury is out and will be deliberating for many days.
    The Amanda de cadenet pic is a bit odd